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Chandrasekaran M., Australia, 10 October 2012

The museum has highlighted only their conclusion. But will they put in fine print at least like many commercial product labels the assumptions that long-age history scientists have made to arrive at the conclusion?

Will they ever in fine print say how they have calibrated their fossil dating methods?

Why are the long-age atheists and agnostics mad at the Bible only?

Will they ever challenge Hinduism or Islam or any other creation stories?

Grahame G., Australia, 10 October 2012

Well, perhaps not deliberate on the part of the human who wrote it - that person (or persons) may have simply got confused (which in itself is scary in a place that's supposed to be about education), but one can be almost certain it was deliberate by 'the god of evolution'.

It's certainly not a valid definition of the word "fossil"!

Jesse M., United States, 10 October 2012

Do the people that run this museum really think that anyone will fall for that? Wow, this just shows that the anti-creationists really are getting desperate. The fact that they have to keep moving the goalposts in order to win their argument is just revealing. Let's see:

1) We point out that molecules-to-man evolution violates the definition of the word "science" and that creation and evolution are two frameworks through which the same evidence is interpreted, so they redefine the word "science" in such a way to make evolution "scientific" and to exclude creation.

2) We point out that many people with the same credentials as secular scientists reject evolution, so they redefine the word "scientist" in such a way to exclude any opposition to evolutionary dogma.

And now they are redefining what a fossil is? This is absurd! How do people not know better?

Adam S., Australia, 10 October 2012

This museum obviously lacks credibility straight up as they can't even define 'fossil' properly.

But I can just imagine the furor had the sign read a more pessimistic: 'Evidence of Death about 4,500 years ago'.

Chuck J., United States, 10 October 2012

The father of all lies, Satan, and his secularist allies are leaving no stone unturned in propapating the lie of evolution. Part of the process is to repeat it often enough to make it appear as fact. Your ministry is important to help educate as many as possible. Do not despair. God's truth has already won and will one day be apparent to all.

Timothy C., United States, 10 October 2012

Anti-creationists also seem to define logic, understanding and scientific literacy as evolution-exclusive as well. It comes as no surprise to me that they try to make the definition of a fossil evolution exclusive too. I'm going to do a Youtube video on this! What's the name of the museum?

PS: I like to keep the distinction between "evolutionist" and "anti-creationist." One defends evolution rationally and scientifically, while the other defends evolution irrationally and religiously (like that museum display, it's clear the work of anti-creationists).

David Catchpoole responds

As nearly 12 years have now elapsed since this article was published in Creation magazine (and probably 13 years or more since the photograph was taken), given the normal museum cycles of upgrading/replacing displays by curators, it would be likely that this display has long ago been changed. And indeed, an online search reveals that the Dinosaur Valley museum site has now closed, with the Museum of Western Colorado now channeling its resources into its 'Dinosaur Journey' museum site.

Nicholas P., United States, 10 October 2012

Ha ha! When I saw that definition I couldn't help but laugh! We must really be getting under their nerves! This shows their complete bias and hatred for anything that refutes their (little "g") god. They so desperately want to live the Romans chapter 1 life that they will change the meaning of words to preserve their completely illogical beliefs.

michael S., United Kingdom, 10 October 2012

Jesse M, people do not see what you have highlighted because it would not matter if the Lord Himself went before them, their eyes are veiled. They have hardened their heart so like Pharaoh, the Lord has honoured their decision, and led them in slippery places. They have talked themselves into evolution. As you have probably noticed, it's mostly political these days, it seems to be 95% rhetorical garbage that even pre-teens could find fallacious.

I am not against the genuinely intellectual evolutionist who at least knows his/her stuff inside out, but the tumult of bandwagon buffoons is becoming a deluge! It seems words, or indeed, "epithets" and "rhetoric" is now the name of the game.

It's 'MAKE the Creationist look bad with our words, BECAUSE we can't rebut them logically!!'

B. W., Canada, 10 October 2012

But as it happens all of those fossils *are* older than 7000 years. Geology, radioactive isotope physics, and archaeology all independently arrive at consistent dates much much older than 7000 years. And my Oxford English Dictionary reads "Fossil, noun: 1: the remains or impression of **prehistoric** plant or animal embedded in rock and preserved in petrified form, 2: (derogatory or humorous) a person or thing that is outdated or resistant to change" [emphasis my own]. So maybe the museum was using fossil in the common and non-technical sense, in which case it's about spot on that human records don't go much further back than 7000 years.

David Catchpoole responds

Not so. Reliable records go back to the very beginning of time, about 6,000 years ago. (The Bible, of course.)

Jay M., United Kingdom, 11 October 2012

The last gasps of a desperate religion. My prayers go out to whoever made this *convenient* error, and that the museum corrects it. May Jesus be glorified through his creation, Amen.

G. P., United States, 11 October 2012

Wouldn't it be ironic if their choice of dates actually would make people wonder what the Bible says that they are trying so hard to cover up?

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