Response to the post-Flood lake model for the Green River Formation
by Michael J. Oard
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Lake paleoenvironmental signatures, as discussed by John Whitmore, are equivocal
and thus cannot be considered as valuable as the geomorphological evidences. The
exploded fish and caddis fly burrows are challenging to a Flood interpretation,
however, other features of the fossil fish and caddis fly burrows are anomalous
for a post-Flood lake. An early Flood timing can explain many of the features interpreted
to be from a post-Flood setting, such as bird and mammal tracks, raindrop impressions,
and mudcracks. Furthermore a case can be made for the inorganic deposition of ‘stromatolites’,
and ‘evaporites’ claimed in the Green River Formation (GRF) have anomalous
features for a post-Flood lake. A Flood model can explain the deposition and features
of the GRF.
I thank John Whitmore for systematically presenting the case for the post-Flood
lake model of the Green River Formation (GRF).1
There are many challenges in explaining features of the rocks and fossils in a Flood
model, no matter what the supposed geological age. In thinking about the challenges
of explaining the GRF, as well as the associated formations, from a Flood point
of view, there will continue to be mysteries. We still don’t know enough about
the details of the Flood to provide reasonable answers to some challenges. Often
times, we can find features similar to the GRF in other formations that practically
all creation geologists would believe are from the Flood, and in that way lend credence
to a Flood mechanism.
I compare the problem to an explosion. When looking at the debris from long distance,
it looks like an explosion occurred. But if we would go up and examine the debris
close up, we may ask ourselves: how could that particular pattern occur in an explosion?
It is the same with the Flood. The big picture of the rocks and fossils shouts a
global Flood, but on the small or regional scale, we have much trouble seeing how
the area relates to the Flood. Clearly, we need much more research.
With that caveat I will attempt to provide reasonable suggestions to some of the
questions that Whitmore poses in the general order he presented them. I will not
be able to do complete justice to Whitmore’s challenges, since many of them
would require long research projects with more in-depth analysis. I also won’t
comment on what seems like features that can form in either model, such as ripple
marks and flat pebble conglomerate, but will stick to the major challenges.
Lake paleoenvironmental signatures?
Figure 24. Swiss Valley Bar is a large basalt-boulder gravel bar
from the Bonneville flood. It is located down from a bend in the Snake River, near
Hagerman, southern Idaho. (click image for larger view)
* Figures are numbered continuously through all the articles in this forum.
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Figure 25. Lake Bonneville shorelines along the lower slope of
the mountains, with a perched delta out from the little valley just right of centre.
View east from junction of Interstate 15 and Highway 91, Utah. (click image for
larger view)
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Figure 26. Shorelines from an Ice Age pluvial lake in south-east
Oregon (near the base of the hill). (click image for larger view)
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Whitmore lists quite a number of lake paleoenvironmental signatures that, when added
up, seems like a good case for a post-Flood lake, although dated as Eocene within
the uniformitarian geological column. I appreciate Whitmore focusing on the physical
evidence and not where the GRF fits into the geological column.
I agree that there would be lakes within enclosed basins right after the Flood,
such as pluvial Lake Bonneville, which was about 245 m deeper and 8 times the size
of Great Salt Lake. Furthermore, Lake Bonneville persisted late into the time of
the Ice Age because shorelines have been etched on a terminal moraine at the mouth
of Little Cottonwood Creek and Bells Canyon, south-east of Salt Lake City.2 The overflow of Lake Bonneville through Red Rock
Pass in south-east Idaho also caused the Bonneville Flood, which is evident in southern
Idaho near the Snake River (figure 24*).3
Lake Bonneville left obvious lake features such as distinct shorelines along the
mountains and hills around Great Salt Lake (figure 25). There were quite a few other
lakes in the Great Basin of the south-west USA after the Flood, and these also have
surviving shorelines on the hillsides (figure 26). Pluvial Lake Lahontan in western
Nevada not only has remnant shorelines, but also rounded beach gravels and numerous
near-shore constructional features.4
There are also large deltas with coarse gravels at the mouths of canyons coincident
with the shorelines.
How well do the suggested lakes represented by the GRF compare with Lake Bonneville
and other pluvial lakes that were just to the west and would have occupied the same
time in the post-Flood period? Do we see shorelines and high deltas associated with
the GRF? Do we see any evidence that the postulated lakes overflowed over low ridges?
We see signs of huge erosion in the basins containing the GRF. Do we see evidence
of such erosion in any of the post-Flood pluvial lake basins during the Ice Age?
Are there any subtropical or tropical fish associated with any of these pluvial
lakes? Although a detailed study is needed, I would lean that the putative lakes
that deposited the GRF are not analogous to the Ice Age lakes.
Uniformitarian scientists claim there commonly were lakes throughout the geological
column based on a number of criteria.5,6 Besides many Tertiary lakes mapped
in the western United States, there are also supposed to be extensive pre-Tertiary
lake sediments along the continental divide and high plains.7
They include the mountain valleys of south-west Montana as well as the high plains
of central Montana. I have great difficulty envisioning the sedimentary rocks in
these areas in Montana as from ancient lakes. The above editors and authors list
many criteria for identifying a lake, based of course on uniformitarian ideas, but
the criteria have many complications and the data are contradictory. The main criterion
seems to be the fossils.8 Selley believes
non-marine fossils and low energy deposits, especially ‘varves’ or rhythmites,
are particularly diagnostic of an ancient lake.9
However, we would expect a lot of non-marine fossils and thin-bedded rhythmites
associated with the Flood. Guy Berthault has shown that thin laminites or rhythmites,
even varve-like, can form rapidly in currents or even in still air when the particle
sizes in the material are different.10
Settling of various types of particles with organic matter during the Flood, with
or without currents, could be the explanation of the fine layering of the GRF.
Picard and High focus on three ancient lakes, including the GRF which they believe
represents strong evidence for a lake.11
They also consider the Lockatong Formation of New Jersey and Pennsylvania and the
Popo Agie Formation of Wyoming as good examples of ancient lakes. The sedimentary
rocks of the later two are dated as Late Triassic within the uniformitarian geological
column, so most creationist would place them within the Flood. Selley also believes
that other ancient lake deposits are similar to the GRF, especially the Triassic
Lockatong Formation in the Newark trough in the eastern USA. Like Fossil Basin,
the Lockatong Formation has coarse sediments grading into finer sediments toward
the middle of the basin, at least on the western side.12,13 I believe we need an in-depth
study of all these claimed lakes to see how well they really compare to modern lakes,
and to see how the Flood can duplicate their features.
With regards to the bullseye pattern as evidence for a paleolake, I found it interesting
that Picard and High believe that the GRF in Utah conformed to an ideal pattern
for a lake vertically but did not form a bullseye pattern of coarse sediments along
the edge grading to finer sediments in the middle.14
So, although Fossil Basin has a bullseye pattern of sedimentation, the other basins
containing the GRF apparently do not have an ideal pattern.
Figure 27. Quartzite terrace in background with lag of well-rounded
quartzite boulders in the foreground in eastern Fossil Basin. Quartzite boulders
have diameters up to 60 cm, a few percussion and pressure solution marks were observed.
(click image for larger view)
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It seems to me that many of the other variables used to infer a lake origin for
the GRF are equivocal. For instance, cross-bedded sandstones at the edge of Fossil
basin are not necessarily diagnostic of a delta. If these sandstones represent a
delta, I would expect a fair amount of gravels associated with the sands. The coarse
gravel associated with the GRF that I saw, the quartzite cobbles and boulders, generally
lie on top of the GRF forming a lag deposit or even a terrace (figure 27).
If these large basins truly represent post-Flood lakes, there are numerous questions
to ask. The requirements for the formation of the geologically rare oil shale are
difficult to fulfill.15 How would
the huge amount of organic matter in the form of kerogen accumulate in these lakes
in a few hundred years after the Flood? Do other Ice Age lakes have abundant kerogen?
Where do the massive amounts of carbonates found in the sediments originate after
the Flood?
It is now generally assumed that the lakes that formed the GRF were mostly shallow
and dried out at times forming ‘evaporites’. How would the great volume
of ‘evaporites’ form in such a short period after the Flood? Should
we not see evidence within the GRF ‘evaporites’ for rough surfaces,
solution collapse features, and other deformation features, as seen on many playa
lakes today?16
In the shallow lake/playa model, precipitation (rainfall, snow, etc.) must have
been light in the area, which is difficult to envision for a few hundred years after
the Flood.17 Light precipitation
also means light denudation of the surrounding mountains. How, then, could thousands
of metres of sediment accumulate over such a widespread area in such a short time
after the Flood?
I would expect to see a fair number of alluvial fans along the edge of the lakes
within the lake sediments. Are there alluvial fans associated with the GRF?
What does the paleontology tell us?
Figure 28. Map showing the Green River water gap through the Unita
Mountains in the south-west portion of the picture.21
There are quite a few other water gaps in Wyoming and vicinity which are also shown
on the map (from Thornbury).21 (click image for larger
view)
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Freshwater fish are considered one of the evidences of an ancient lake. However,
it is quite likely that the pre-Flood oceans were far less salty than the oceans
today, since much of the salt in the oceans today likely originated from the Flood.
So freshwater fauna alone cannot be used as evidence of a post-Flood lake. Terrestrial
plants also are not diagnostic of a continental environment.18 Furthermore, it does not seem that the fish in
the GRF are strictly freshwater.19
There seems to be types of organisms in the GRF that predominate in marine waters,
such as stingrays, dogfish, herring, a marine sand fish and sponge spicules.20
I don’t believe that the number of types and the variable number of fossil
fish in the basins are evidence against the Flood and for a post-Flood lake. It
seems that there should be more similarities in species between basins, if the GRF
represents post-Flood lakes, because one would expect river or stream connections
between the lakes. For instance, I would expect a connection between ‘Fossil
Lake’ and ‘Lake Gosiute’ just to the east. In fact, the Greater
Green River Basin is currently connected to the Uinta Basin by the Green River.
Wouldn’t these two basins have been connected by a river when lakes supposedly
filled these basins after the Flood?
If there was not a connection between ‘Fossil Lake’ and ‘Lake
Gosiute’ during the time of the deposition of the GRF, then how did the Green
River water gap form through the Uinta Mountains between the basins after the Flood?
On the north side of the Uinta Mountains, the Green River at first runs eastward
parallel to the east-west Uinta Mountains, then turns right and flows through hard
quartzite in the core of the Uinta Mountains and into the Uinta Basin (figure 28).21 The river should have gone more
easily around to the east of the Uinta Mountains when the basin fill sediments were
thicker. Water gaps were more likely formed during the Channelized phase of the
Retreating Stage of the Flood.22
Evidence that it takes a flood to form a water gap is shown by the Lake Missoula
flood overtopping a ridge and cutting a new 150-m deep canyon that is now occupied
by the Palouse River (figure 29).23,24 Another consideration is that
the GRF and associated formations have been deeply cut by the Green River, indicating
that the GRF was likely deposited before the formation of the water gap,
which very likely formed during the Genesis Flood.
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Credit: Image by Mark Wolfe
Figure 29. Map of ridge between Washtucna Coulee and the Snake
River, south-east Washington, USA, which was breached to a depth of 150 m at two
locations, by the Lake Missoula flood. The Palouse River flowed down Washtucna Coulee
before the flood but after the flood ended up taking a left-hand turn, flowing into
the Snake River.73 (click image
for larger view)
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Grande points out that the number of fish species in the GRF is anomalously low
when compared to modern tropical African lakes.25
He has a table that shows only 15 species in ‘Lake Gosiute’ and 11 species
in ‘Lake Uinta’. This is anomalous and certainly not expected for post-Flood
lakes. Another anomaly is Bradley’s observation that there are no
diatoms in the GRF.26 Diatoms
are ubiquitous in modern fresh to marine waters, as Picard and High state, ‘Diatoms
have adapted widely to virtually all types of water’.27
Moreover supposed freshwater diatoms can handle a wide range of salinities, and
they are common in the western United States since the Eocene of the geological
timescale.28 One would expect a
great number and variety of diatoms in the GRF.
The presence of exploded, disarticuled, and partially decayed fish on a number of
horizons is most interesting and forms a significant part of Whitmore’s excellent
Ph.D. thesis.29 Whitmore states
that such observations indicate shallow water and protracted deposition. This is
challenging to a Flood interpretation, but I will attempt to focus these observations
into a Flood model in the last section.
Are ‘stromatolites’ in sedimentary rocks biological?
Stromatolites are said to be abundant in the GRF, providing one of the evidences
of a post-Flood lake. However, creationists should question whether most, if not
all, stromatolites in the sedimentary rocks are biological. Why?
First, ‘stromatolites’ in the rocks are generally unlike those observed
today in such hot environments as Bermuda and Western Australia.30 Stromatolites or stromatolite-like mats or bioherms
also form in various freshwater environments.31
The freshwater forms appear to be different from the structures I saw in the GRF.
Second, there is very little evidence of organic matter or structures associated
with stromatolites in the rocks.32,33 Third, practically all the
fossil ‘stromatolites’ are in carbonates.32,34 This is quite unlike modern
stromatolites, which are found in a variety of sedimentary environments, and bind
all types of sediments, not just carbonates.35
Fourth, ‘stromatolites’ in the rocks can be widespread over tens of
kilometres while those today are more local.36
Fifth, ‘stromatolites’ are not only found in rocks that some creationist
think are post-Flood as well as in the Precambrian that some creationists believe
are pre-Flood,37 but also they are
found in Phanerozoic carbonates38,39 that practically all creationists
would believe are Flood rocks. Although not nearly as abundant as in Precambrian
rocks, stromatolites are not rare in Paleozoic and Mesozoic carbonates, especially
early Paleozoic.40 How are Paleozoic
‘stromatolites’ laid down in the Flood to be explained? If some ‘stromatolites’
are from the Flood, and there is not enough time for them to develop, why not include
all or most all ‘stromatolites’ in sedimentary rocks as non-biological
from the Flood, especially when they are unlike modern stromatolites?
It seems that the origin of these unique structures in carbonates were assumed
organic before modern (though dissimilar) examples were found.41 It seems that there has been a bandwagon effect
ever since. However, even some evolutionists have expressed uncertainty over the
biological origin of stromatolites or at least some stromatolites in sedimentary
rocks.42–44
The big picture within the Flood model indicates a non-biological origin for most,
if not all, of these banded structures. I believe we should be looking for a physico-chemical
effect within carbonates, possibly unique to the Flood.
What about large agglomeration of caddis fly cases?
Calcified caddis fly larval cases (figure 21) are claimed for a number of areas,
mainly along the northern margin of the Green River Basin.45
They indeed look like organic structures, and Klevberg (personal communication)
acknowledged from the samples in my possession that the tubes do look like caddis
fly cases. So, I suggest that these structures are indeed caddis fly cases. A biological
interpretation goes along with the observation by Bradley that some caddis fly cases
in the GRF are lined with ostracode valves, commonly only one shell thick,46 which is likely a result of biological activity.
However, Klevberg and I noticed a few strange relationships compared with caddis
fly cases in lakes and streams today. First, the GRF cases are found within
circular carbonate mounds, interpreted as stromatolites, including along a 70-km-long
horizon in the northern Green River Basin.47
There does not appear to be any modern analogue for this kind of behaviour by caddis
flies.48 Caddis fly cases within
‘stromatolites’ may be the reason why some ‘stromatolites’
have borings into them.49 Why would
caddis flies prefer to lay their eggs in the centres of ‘stromatolites’?
Second, it is odd that many hundreds of cases seem to be built right on top of each
other, as if caddis flies always chose the same location to lay their eggs and build
their cases.50 Klevberg (personal
communication) relates how he has observed individual caddis fly cases scattered
in a stream. One would expect the same scattering of cases below wave base along
a lake. Why should they be so bunched together by the thousands?
Third, there does not seem to be many other types of insect evidence around, which
I would have expected near the shoreline of a large post-Flood lake and also reported
at modern locations where caddis flies live.51
These unusual circumstances make me realize that we need more research on caddis
flies and their cases. The caddis fly cases seem at first glance to support a post-Flood
lake environment, but it may be that the unusual activity by caddis flies may offer
support for unique biological activity in the Flood (see last section below).
Tracks, bird bones, raindrop impressions, mudcracks and other special features
There are indeed tracks of birds and mammals and probably raindrop impressions near
Soldier Summit, along the south-west edge of the Uinta Basins.52,53
‘Flamingo nests’ are also claimed,54
as well as mudcracks and other special features. Tracks of land animals are the
sign of live animals that in a Flood context should have been dead by Day 150 of
the Flood (Genesis
7:20–24). Therefore, it looks like much of the tectonics, sedimentary
rock deformation and basin fills in the central Rockies were actually deposited
before Day 150. This goes along with a previous hypothesis from other areas
of the western United States, based on mammal tracks and the pattern of erosion.55 I have been torn between where
the GRF fits into the Flood, but the above is strong evidence for the first 150
days. This implies that practically all of the sediments in this area of the Rocky
Mountains and high plains, even the Cenozoic sediments, are from early
in the Flood. The Retreating Stage of the Flood after Day 150 would then be an erosional
period for this area. It stands to reason that the sedimentary rocks still remaining
after this great erosion would have been deposited before Day 150 in the Flood.
These deductions undoubtedly upset the ideas of some who believe that the geological
column is a nice linear progression of the Flood, but with a compressed timescale.
However, there is no theoretical reason to believe in such a linear pattern. In
fact, because the greatest disruption occurred during the first 150 days, probably
more so during the first 40 days, it makes more sense that the greater volume of
sedimentation and tectonics over the currently high areas of the western United
States occurred early in the Flood. In other words, Flood sedimentation was highly
nonlinear with much more deposition early in the Flood. The record of the Retreating
Stage of the Flood would mostly be a record of massive erosion of currently high
altitude areas during late-Flood uplift with redeposition along the continental
margin or unfilled basins on the continents, such as the Lower Mississippi River
Valley.56
Figure 30. Dinosaur tracks, eggs and megatrack sites on postulated
strip of land or series of shoals in western USA, generally parallel to the crest
of the Rocky Mountains. Such a scenario can also account for mammal and bird tracks,
bird nests, mudcracks and raindrop impressions in the Green River Formation. (click
image for larger view)
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This brings up the question of how tracks, raindrop impressions and other special
features that indicate exposed land could have been formed on Flood sediments
early in the Flood. I believe it is the same principle that can account for dinosaur
tracks, eggs and unique features of some bonebeds in the Rocky Mountain region and
the high plains, which I previously reported (figure 30).57
In areas of rapid sedimentation, the distance between the water surface and the
bottom will become less and less. Then fluctuating sea level at numerous temporal
scales would briefly expose the newly-deposited Flood sediments during a relative
drop in local or regional sea level. There are at least four reasons why sea level
would fluctuate during the early part of the Flood: (1) tectonics, (2) tsunamis,
(3) tides on a mostly flooded Earth and (4) the dynamics of shallow Flood currents,
less than 1,000 metres deep, on submerged continents at least 2,500 kilometres wide.58
The fourth mechanism requires a little explanation. Simulations of a totally flooded
Earth with the water at rest show that water currents of 40 to 80 m/sec develop
within weeks on shallow continents due to the spin of the earth, or the Coriolis
force. These currents had ‘troughs’ and ‘ridges’ just like
the jet stream in the atmosphere when looking down at the earth. Interestingly,
the water piles up in the ridges and drops as much as 1,000 m in the troughs, intersecting
the bottom. Furthermore, the pattern of troughs and ridges moves slowly, similar
to the jet stream in the atmosphere. Such a pattern would expose freshly laid Flood
sediments in the Flood current troughs that could remain exposed for many days,
allowing tracks, eggs, nests, raindrop impressions, mudcracks and other special
features to be produced—all early in the Flood. Birds, mammals and insects
could have embarked on the temporarily exposed land from floating mats of vegetation
or from higher ground not yet inundated by the floodwaters. Such a scenario can
also explain orientated bird bones that provide evidence for a shoreline.59 Cracks that look like desiccation cracks can also
form underwater, and it is often difficult to tell the difference between underwater
synaeresis cracks or subaerial desiccation cracks.60,61
Geochemistry
Although trona cannot precipitate from standard seawater, we must remember that
the floodwaters cannot be characterized as either ‘freshwater’ or ‘marine’
in today’s sense. So the presence of trona is not evidence against a Flood
deposition and in favour of a post-Flood lake evaporite.
However, there are anomalies associated with the GRF ‘evaporites’ that
militate against a lake environment. As Whitmore stated, there is no gypsum (or
anhydrite) in the GRF.62 From a
quick check of modern saline deposition in lakes, gypsum is a common mineral.5,6 Although a possible indicator of a marine environment,
halite is also frequently found in modern lacustrine deposits, such as Lake Eyre,
Australia.63 There are also very
thick deposits of halite, up to 2.5 km, in Cenozoic deposits, including Miocene
and Pliocene, in the western USA Basin and Range that are claimed to be nonmarine.64 It seems to me that these halite
deposits are more indicative of Flood deposition, and that the Flood/post-Flood
boundary is in the late ‘Cainozoic’ just to the west of the GRF. So,
the rarity of halite in the GRF is not diagnostic. Hardie sums it up:
‘The majority of modern non-marine saline lake concentrated brines are, like
seawater, NaCl-rich … The most common saline minerals in non-marine evaporite
deposits are, like those of marine evaporites, halite and gypsum (and/or anhydrite)
… .’65
The geochemistry of the GRF is unusual; the rocks are complex and present many problems.66,67
There is the problem of the origin of dolomite, which usually is precipitated, if
primary, in hot water.68 Even the
dolomitization of limestones (secondary dolomite) occurs at elevated temperatures.69 There are over 70 authigenic
minerals,70 so diagenetic processes
were widespread.71 Also, some minerals
that would be expected are missing from the GRF.66
I doubt whether a detailed study of all these minerals would support a post-Flood
lake environment.
Discussion and possible Flood depositional model
Although sedimentological and other features of the GRF have similarities to modern
lake environments, there are also multiple differences (not counting all
the features mentioned in the first submission). There hasn’t been enough
research to know how the details of the GRF would fit into a Flood model, a model
that is right now still in its development stage with several working hypotheses.
Just because the GRF has not yet been worked into a Flood model, does not mean that
the GRF is automatically from a post-Flood lake. Similarly, even if there is no
modern non-lake mechanism for a bullseye pattern, that does not mean we should accept
a paleolake model in the absence of an alternative. Are there other pre-Tertiary
claimed lakes that have a bullseye pattern? No-one has worked on these issues from
a Flood perspective. However, I will present a speculative regional Flood model
below and attempt to incorporate some of the features observed with the GRF.
As I have already stated, the evidence of mammal tracks on the edge of the Uinta
basin is evidence that the deposition of the pre-Cenozoic sedimentary rocks, some
of the tectonic uplift of the mountains and probably most of the deposition of the
thick sediments in the downwarped basins occurred during the first half of the Flood.
This is because all air-breathing animals had to be dead by Day 150, and tracks
are evidence of a live animal.56 I have previously
developed the exposed land hypothesis to account for dinosaur tracks, eggs, nests
and features of bonebeds on bedding planes during Flood deposition (see figure 30).57 I believe that exposed Flood sediments due to
fluctuating sea levels were common in many places of the world during the early
Flood because tracks and eggs are found in certain locations all over the earth.
At the beginning of mountain uplift and basin subsidence in the central Rockies,
during the first half of the Flood, most of the area was submerged in the floodwaters
and the basins would rapidly fill up with sediments. Fine layering would be caused
by rapid deposition of different sedimentary particles. The kerogen was supplied
from all the available organic matter ripped up early in the Flood. Some of the
basins would have been entirely surrounded by higher terrain, so that deposition
within the enclosed, submerged basin could sometimes come from the surrounding higher
terrain forming a bullseye sedimentation pattern. Alternately, this pattern could
be formed by a circular eddy pattern within the basin.72
During this time a regional sea level fall would expose some of the newly-deposited
Flood sediments, mainly along the shallower edge. Mammals and birds, from either
higher land nearby not yet inundated or from floating mats of vegetation, would
embark on the exposed land, making tracks, nests, etc. Plant material would be deposited
at times. Insects, especially caddis flies, would have a ‘reproductive bloom’.
Raindrop impressions and true mudcracks also would form. Such a scenario potentially
can explain the other features of the GRF and associated formations, such as the
high amount of carbonate, ‘evaporites’ that would actually be precipitates,
etc. Another transgression of the sea would cover the exposed Flood sediments.
What about the special features of the fish in Fossil Basin? I will suggest some
possibilities. The fish could decay by variable amounts and generate trapped gases
in their carcasses while floating in the basin. They could be forced down to the
sediment water interface by hyperpycnal flows or some other mechanism. Sea level
fluctuations would shallow the water allowing the fish to explode, especially at
the edge of the basin where the fish are less well preserved. This scenario could
repeat a number of times accounting for the multiple horizons. Or alternatively
in deep water, sea level fluctuations or vertical changes in the fish carcass in
the water would result in pressure changes. Could a lowering of pressure around
the dead fish due to a sea level fall, or a fish moving upward from the bottom,
be sufficient to cause the explosion?
After the 150th day the continent slowly uplifted, so that the mountains
that formed in the first half of the Flood emerged above the waters. During the
second half of the Flood, the mountains may have continued to rise while the basins
could have continued to sink a little, as some of the basin sediment seems to show
tectonic deformation along the edge. During the continental uplift stage, the floodwaters
would regress off the land, causing the huge amount of erosion documented in my
first submission. At this time quartzites were spread on top of some of the basin
formations, pediments were developed and water gaps cut through mountains.
Acknowledgments
I thank John Woodmorappe, John Reed, and Peter Klevberg for their helpful comments
and the discussion of various ideas related to the manuscript.
Related article
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