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UFOs are not extraterrestrial!

Modern secular researchers are getting closer to the truth

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Published: 5 July 2016 (GMT+10)
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As a young man (non-believer), I loved watching science fiction and its portrayal of older, more advanced extraterrestrials (ETs) inhabiting other worlds and warping around the galaxy in their hyperdrive spaceships. However, when I became a Christian and biblical creationist, the strong evolutionary link to the belief in ETs became obvious. Then there was the claim that millions of people (including many Christians) have seen strange objects manifest in the sky, and others even claimed to have been abducted by aliens. Besides the fact that interstellar travel is impossible as the basic laws of physics that govern our universe would have to be violated, I already knew enough to know that these experiences could not all be dismissed as wishful thinking or psychological delusions. In short, something was really happening to these people. So, I undertook specialist research into what is called the ‘UFO phenomenon’ which led to my Amazon top 50 best-selling book Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection and dozens of further articles on creation.com.

I got more than I bargained for. This was no innocuous field of study. It was necessary for me to attend UFO conferences where I witnessed, first-hand, people in trance-like states claiming to be ‘channelling’ messages from aliens. I discovered deliberate and insidious attempts by dark spiritual forces to deceive mankind. Just like people who were converted to Christianity, these ‘experiencers’ were having life-changing experiences that altered their perception of the universe and their place in it. Of course, most non-Christians would say that I was constrained by my Christian worldview to interpret events in such a way. Many have said that Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection is not really a ‘Christian’ book in the sense that it is a serious, close look at the UFO events that have shaped the mainstream school of thought about the UFO phenomenon. It revealed that there are massive inconsistencies in the idea that alleged wiser and benevolent ETs are coming from a ‘galaxy far, far away’, and are overseeing human evolution (a common theme).

The book was really a collation of secular research (using the hostile witness approach) to support the above conclusion. I.e. it wasn’t just little ‘Joe Christian’ here saying “believe me”. For example, paranormal and UFO researcher John Keel (deceased/cited later) who is probably best-known as the author of the book The Mothman Prophecies (later made into a movie starring Richard Gere) said:

“The UFOs do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the natural laws of our environment. They seem to be nothing more than transmogrifications tailoring themselves to our abilities to understand. The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are liars and put-on artists. The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”1 

One of the most famous UFO researchers (and UFO authors) of all time is Ph.D. scientist Dr Jacques Vallée. It was the research of both Vallée and Dr J. Allen Hynek (former US Government researcher into UFOs) that inspired Hollywood director Steven Spielberg to make the classic movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Indeed, the lead UFO researcher in the movie was a Frenchman and was actually based upon Dr Vallée. As far back as 1977, he wrote:

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Drs J. Allen Hynek and Jaques Vallée both consulted to the US government regarding UFOs.
“I propose the hypothesis that there is a control system for human consciousness … I am suggesting that what takes place through close encounters with UFOs is control of human beliefs, control of the relationship between our consciousness and physical reality, that this control has been in force throughout history and that it is of secondary importance that it should now assume the form of sightings of space visitors.”2

He also concluded that:

“ … human belief … is being controlled and conditioned, man’s concepts are being rearranged, and we may be headed toward a massive change of human attitudes toward paranormal abilities and extraterrestrial life.”3

This all sounds very much like 2 Thessalonians 2:9–12.


“The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

The modern UFOlogist

Vallée and even Keel showed that ETs were actually nothing of the sort and that it was some kind of ‘psychic’ force that would alter its appearance depending upon its audience’s ability to understand. In the past they were elves, fairies and even spirit beings manifesting themselves to third-world cultures. However, to the ‘true believer’ who really desires there to be benevolent aliens visiting us from different star systems, then perhaps they are interdimensional and not really from our own physical universe. Speculative ideas about the evolution of the cosmos such as string theory and multiverse have only accelerated this idea. In fact, Dr Vallée became disenchanted somewhat with modern UFOlogy believing that it had been hijacked by a religious group of New Agers and that serious research had suffered as a result. I agree.

In concluding that the phenomenon has psychic/spiritual aspects, both Dr Vallée and I might have a new, modern and surprising, ally to our beliefs about the deceptive nature of ETs. One of the most famous of the current crop of UFOlogist is Nick Redfern, a British born author and UFO investigator and conspiracy theorist who has been an advocate of the Disclosure Project for many years. He has written 13 books and numerous articles for various publications, and is a regular guest on The History Channel shows such as UFO Hunters. In an online article he recently wrote:

“ … my views on the nature of the UFO phenomenon have radically changed over the years. Back when I was in my twenties, I was of the opinion that UFOs (the truly unknown ones) were extraterrestrial … As I slid into my thirties, however, my thoughts slowly began to change (something which also happened for a few friends of mine in the field, too). And as many people will also know, my views—today—are far closer to those suggested by John Keel. Namely, that we’re dealing with something that co-exists with us and which masquerades as ET. It’s not enough for me to say ‘My views have changed.’ There are the reasons why my mind has altered since my early thirties (or thereabouts). And, there are several reasons, rather than just one.
“There’s the nature of the entities themselves: they practically overemphasize who, or what, they claim to be. We only have to take a careful look at such cases … to see that these ‘incidents’ are clearly stage-managed. It’s a game, a scenario that has everything to do with trying to emphasize the ET meme … . Of course, they could easily avoid us! But, here’s the deal: they want to be seen. It’s not an accident. It’s carefully planned. And it’s designed to plant an image of ‘ET scientists’ in the mind(s) of the witness(es).”4

Parallel realities

His thoughts are almost so identical to my book that my heart races as I read his views. He is so close to the truth. I had always highlighted the inconsistency that our ‘alien creators’ couldn’t get their stories straight about where they were from. Once they were from planets in our own solar system, but we’ve visited those planets and shown them to be liars. Now they come from distant star systems where we cannot test their claims. In short, they can’t all be our creators and therefore they cannot all be correct! Redfern now sees it too.

“It’s much the same with the way in which—in both Contactee and Abductee cases—the aliens aren’t just keen to tell us which planet, star-system, or galaxy, they’re from. They’re more than a bit too keen to do so. Once it was Venus and Mars. Then, it was Zeta Reticuli. Or is it the Pleiades? The problem is not so much where they claim to come from. Rather, it’s their eager insistence on letting us know where they’re from—and time and again. There’s another issue, too. Over the decades, we have allegedly been visited by long-haired Space Brothers, stacked Space-Babes, black-eyed and large-headed dwarfs, bipedal reptiles, praying mantis-type creatures, and … well … the list goes on and on. But, they all seem perfectly comfortable with the Earth’s gravity, temperature, oxygen levels, etc. Doesn’t that strike you as a bit odd?”
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UFOlogist Nick Redfern

The last point about being compatible with Earth’s atmosphere was another inconsistency that I’d highlighted. He continues to reinforce my own findings:

“They’re not at all unlike multiple accounts that one can find in numerous religions. In fact, they’re near-identical. Lives are radically changed, and people find themselves on new paths. Gods, angels, demons, the ‘little people,’ and—today—aliens: it’s all one and the same. A force that we presently don’t understand and which impacts upon us—and manifests before us—in a fashion that is relevant to the people of the particular era in question.
“But, I can say for sure that, every year, my views that we are dealing with something much stranger than ET grow stronger. The main reason: the phenomenon works too hard to come across as alien. As McKenna said: ‘We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us.’”

A wise man once said:

“What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9 NIV).

Often creationists get accused of not coming up with original research. Here is one example where the secular researchers (if they choose to be honest with their findings as Mr Redfern has done) are coming to the same conclusions. It’s also a wonderful confirmation that once again using the Bible as our filter we can help dissect and discern one of the most puzzling mysteries of the modern era and show it for what it really is. My interview with another former New Age UFO researcher and MUFON investigator showed he also found the Bible was the only thing that could adequately explain the phenomenon.

I applaud Mr Redfern for his candid views and for his honesty in putting the usual reinforcement syndrome to one side and, potential books sales, to speak the truth about his findings. It’s a rare thing. I will be sending Mr Redfern a signed copy of Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection with my prayers that he also finds the One who is the truth.

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References and notes

  1. John Keel, Operation Trojan Horse (Lilburn, GA: Illuminet Press, 1996), p. 266. Return to text
  2. Story, Ronald, The Mammoth Encyclopedia of Extraterrestrial Encounters, in an article by Jacques Vallée, pp. 753–754. This article was a summary of his conclusions in his 1977 book Unidentified Flying Objects: The Psychic Solution. Return to text.
  3. Vallée, Jacques, The Invisible College, New York, E.P. Dutton, 1975, p. 207. Return to text.
  4. Redfern, N., UFOs: Extraterrestrial? Probably Not … , mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/04/ufos-extraterrestrial-probably-not, 6 April 2016. Return to text.

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L G., United Kingdom, 10 July 2016

Firstly: planets, stars and extraterrestial bodies were not made until the 4th day. The Earth was here first and the Bible makes very clear it was made for people - likewise the heavenly bodies. Aliens simply do not exist. Secondly: there is a wealth of solid evidence that the vast majority of genuine UFO encounters are not with UFOs at all but with the secret aviation and other technologies perpetuated since the Second World War and before. For example the start of UFO mythology was when there was a rash of sightings in the 19th Century. These of course turned out to be military airships. Numerous people then experimented with various types of "anti-gravity" propulsion generally focusing on electromagnetism, but there were many other methods. Because there has been a huge international cover up programme from the powers concerned the general public has created a massive alien mythology, perpetuated by secret intelligence agencies whose job is to cover up the fact that their government and others possess these aircraft. Some UFOs are nuclear powered airships, others use electromagnetic power, others use chemical reactivity, some are manned, some are not, some can go underwater a la Stingray, others are plasmas created by the scalar weapon systems of various countries. Because people generally do not know about these things it becomes a mystery and it is scary. The vast majority of alien abductees reveal their abduction experience under hypnosis - making it strongly suspect. There is no doubt that evil spiritual forces perpetuate every sphere of life including UFOs and aliens, however before concluding that they are a demonic phenomenon there must be a dose of reality. Most are simply secret military aircraft etc...and aliens are the cover story.

Gary Bates responds

You commented that 'most' are secret military aircraft, but respectfully that is simply not correct. Christians and non-believers alike tend to interpret the phenomenon via certain lenses. Please read this article as to how this happens. It is well-known and takes little research to determine that most are just misidentified objects that can include man-made technology (which may include some top secret military testing), natural phenomena (such as ball lightning, for example), and some is unquestionably spiritual in nature as it defies any naturalistic interpretation. The reason I felt it necessary to challenge the perception is when one says it is secret military aircraft, and that the government is perpetuating the alien myth; is often driven by one's eschatology rather than the facts. As I have done with others, I recommend reading Alien Intrusion as this book contains thoroughly documented research to back up the statistics it cites.

With regard to whether there is actually intelligent life on other planets, our starting point should be the Bible. The article Did God create life on other planets? does this.

Richard. P. C., Australia, 9 July 2016

I first read a George Adamski ufo book in the early 5o's and got interested, I was a Christian but thought evolution was true, then though I was more interested in the physical marks left etc, by ufo's, I became disturbed when I felt that some aspects were supernatural, then when I read John Keel's book, I realised that all this lead to the occult, so I stopped. Then 25yrs or so ago, I found Chuck Missler, God Bless him, and that led me to C.M.I. and your Book Alien Intrusion. Through Faith, God led me to the truth. Thank you and God Bless C.M.I.

Gary Bates responds

Thanks for letting us know about your journey to faith. Yes, I covered Adamski in my book, also. He was a pioneer many years ago, albeit quite fraudulent in what he claimed. I/we are encouraged by your testimony. Thanks again.

David B., United States, 8 July 2016

I've been following the phenomena related to UFOs and "alien encounters/abductions" for decades. They were really big in the 70s, perhaps going along with the "drugs, sex, and rock & roll" and a big growth in a pseudo-revived "witchcraft," wicca, outright satanism etc. All of these movements promote an alternate path to peace and wisdom or arcane knowledge. There's also a strong sexual component. I wouldn't dismiss claims that a lot of the UFO stuff is just hoax, fraud, lies, mistakes, and misunderstood natural phenomena. It's what remains after you eliminate all those possibilities that appears to defy both the "true UFO believers" and the shallow scoffers. An early Christian response, as I recall, was "Crash Go the Chariots," a response to von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods." I think the New Age side of the movement will embrace UFOs as spiritual phenomena, reject the evidence that they are evil, and "Independence Day" style visions of space ships won't be needed for their false explanation for the disappearances of the Rapture.

Gary Bates responds

David, let me gently challenge you if you don't mind. You claim you've been researching this for decades. Have you read the most comprehensive and most popular Christian book on the subject? It's called Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the evolution connection. If you have then you would know that most of what you talk about is covered in depth in the book. You also said not to dismiss that a lot of the stuff is hoaxes and frauds etc., presumably in response to an earlier comment. We need to be clear about the way words are used and read (literally) here. The commenter said that he thought that most were intentional deceptions or frauds for the sake of money. That is simply not correct and any informed researcher would know that. So, I do not recall 'dismissing' that some are hoaxes or even mistakes and even lies. And again, Alien Intrusion documents that over 90% can be attributed to non-spiritual phenomena.

Also, when it comes to Christians being 'taken up' in a rapture. I am actually sympathetic to that view but, I also respect the fact that approximately half the church has an opposing view of eschatology, and I am mindful and respectful of that. As such, they will obviously have a different view on how to interpret UFOs deceptions as part of any end times events.

Thanks for the email and I hope you don't mind the gentle challenges as a way of sharpening. All the best.

Michael K., United States, 8 July 2016

I have yet to read your book. Is the DVD better (more info)? I have a friend at work who is a buddhist (former Catholic) and he believes in the "ancient universe - big place - aliens must have evolved somewhere" thing. He rejects all supernatural phenomena - he seems genuinely scared by the thought, though he just laughs it off.

Gary Bates responds

The book is most definitely the best resource to get. it's comprehensive and is an easy read specifically for the layperson. It's also available as an eBook. Click on the links to the right of the article.

Daniel M., Australia, 8 July 2016

When I was younger I did quite a bit of amateur astronomy and never saw anything that did not have a natural/man-made explanation. However 15 or so years ago when at a family friend's farm in Shepparton, Victoria I saw an unusual object on the horizon during the day. It appeared solid, dark and triangular and was flipping and moving in a way I have never seen. I pointed it out and my friend who lived on the farm saw it and exlaimed "What's that?!", but when my brother looked it was gone - he still jokes when I mention it that I was being tricked by Satan! I tried to convince myself afterwards that it was a large flock of birds but I don't think it was. The only UFO I have ever seen. I don't believe in aliens but it still disturbs me a little.

Gary Bates responds

As one who has been researching this for many years, I have met many Christians who've had similar experiences, and I am concerned that many like yourself have not had closure on the incident. It is important that you get answers rather than be left wondering. The only way to do this is to read more and find those answers.

That Christians also see UFOs might be more common that one thinks. Like most, your question is really “What was it? What are UFOs?” And yes, there could be other solutions.

We have a lot of information on our site regarding this subject and I have written a comprehensive book called Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the evolution connection. If you follow the link it is also available as an eBook that you could download and start reading straight away. The first thing to realize is that Christians and non-believers generally interpret sightings based upon their belief system or worldview. Please read this article which will explain this in more detail. Second, as Christians the Bible should be our lens and filter in all things. Thus, it is our contention, gleaned from Scripture, that the Bible precludes the idea of any intelligent, sentient, alien life (especially visiting the earth). Please read Did God create life on other planets? So, if God did not create them we must look to other explanations rather than trying to fit UFOs into the Bible.

However, because you have seen something I urge you to do some extra reading on this in order to give you some closure on the matter. We also have an Alien/UFOs QA section on our site which has core articles.

However, the best resource will be the book.

Sue C., New Zealand, 8 July 2016

How interesting that thinking non-believers can discern that some very shady forces are acting to influence human beings today. My concern is for the young and impressionable, even in "Christian" families. When there is very little Bible reading in the home, the screen dominates many lives, and children are exposed to "aliens" in all sorts of ways, the ground is being prepared for alien deception. This could be by means of an actual 'invasion' of an "alien'' into a child's life. That could/would be a demon obsession or oppression or even possession. Or, all this alien groundwork in society as a whole, could lead a young person to succumbing to an "alien disclosure" on a national scale later. These are our precious young people. Read Scripture to them, and help them memorize important verses about God's protection and the place of Jesus Christ as supreme. (Eg, Psalm 91, Colossians 2.) Let them know to call upon the name of Jesus if they are afraid. We are ALL in a spiritual battle. Put the aliens out of the home ! Jesus Christ is Lord !

Gary Bates responds

From first-hand experience I know that many people have purchased a copy of my book for their children to help them think straight about this subject. Recommended for teens and above due to some adult/mature type content though.

Sam H., Australia, 8 July 2016

Hey. Another possibility for the UFO/alien phenomenon is that people are deliberately lying for money from book sales, media interviews, and for the gurus in the field (Steven Greer, Stanton Friedman are two) for money from speaking events also. It's pretty simple. Some people are really good story tellers/speakers, and they use this skill for selfish financial gain.

Gary Bates responds

Sam, this cannot be the case with every event or sighting. Some very nice, genuine people have had some awful experiences that have unfortunately changed their lives. I think it would be worth you doing a bit more research into the UFO phenomenon. For example you could start with our alien QA section. Of course, some might make a living out of writing about it but they do so because of their belief in it. My own book Alien Intrusion is a thorough treatment of the subject and it covers the ideas of the movers and shakers in the UFO movement. And to be fair most of them got involved due to experiences they incurred. In addition, if someone like Nick Redfern is in it for the money, there would be more to be made by going along with the conventional view rather than opposing it.

Lindsay B., Australia, 8 July 2016

I first became aware of the theory that UFOs and alien encounters were demonic through reading a book called, "Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men". I cannot remember the author, but it was a careful study of documented accounts and testimonies. It drew the same conclusion, and I tend to agree. Have you read this book?

Gary Bates responds

Dear Lindsay, yes I have read the book but to be honest I was not happy with its conclusions. It is actually authored by old-earth, progressive creationist Hugh Ross. While he may have reached similar spiritual conclusions with some of the phenomena, he believes in a universe created by some sort of God-given big bang and uses the book to defer to many tenets of evolutionism and its millions and billions of years.

I'm not sure how much you know about of the dubious apologetics of Hugh Ross, but it would be worth reading some of the links provided in this response, including more false claims. I also recommend a brilliant and comprehensive treatise on progressive creation by Dr Jonathan Sarfati called Refuting Compromise.

john P., Australia, 6 July 2016

I have a copy of Gary's book and can thoroughly recommend it. Back when I was still single and a reader of science fiction and fantasy books, I saw a demon by my bedside, tried unsuccessfully to throw my bible at it and called Jesus- it vanished. On another occasion two "aliens" came out of my wardrobe mirror towards me, again vanishing when I called Jesus. As Paul says we are fighting powers and principalities of the air and I was in the front line trenches for that period. It is spiritual warfare but as Christians we are assured of victory and eternal life with our Saviour

R. N., United Kingdom, 5 July 2016

With regards to Gary Bates article "UFOs are not extraterrestrial!", I fully agree with him. These are not ET's, but interdimensional beings, masquerading as ET's. And their manifestations seem to be increasing year by year. I personally believe the great deception Jesus prophesied will come upon the world in this way. Imagine a worldwide manifestation of ET's in the sky? Imagine if the world woke up one morning, switched on their TVs, and saw mile wide spacecraft hovering over our major cities. It would be a game changer, and lead to a paradigm shift in billions of people's worldviews. I could see a lot of 'fair weather' Christians abandoning their faith, because the temptation for them to believe what's right in front of their eyes will be so great. But for the true believer, their trust will continue to be in the Word of God and Christ their Saviour. Of course, Dawkins et al, will no doubt triumphantly announce that evolution was right all along. That ET's explain how life first got gong on primordial earth (i.e. panspermia), and that evolution then took over from then on. And it will certainly seem a very powerful argument, so much so, that even the elect may be deceived, if that were possible. To be honest, I can't think of another scenario that would cause such a great falling away from the faith, as Paul prophesied in 2 Thess. Can you imagine the derision and ridicule Christians we will have to endure from the rest of the world, when aliens suddenly appear? Everyone will say Christians are totally deceived and deluded, because they chose to cling on to their faith, despite what is standing right in front of them. It would certainly be Satan's cleverest trick yet. I can see a lot of people falling for it. I would be interested to know your thoughts.

Gary Bates responds

May I recommend you grab a copy of my book Alien Intrusion as it covers your question quite comprehensively? It's also available as an eBook.

Dan M., United States, 5 July 2016

I too grew up fascinated by science fiction shows wishing I could travel through the universe. I still like it but with a different point of view, (just entertainment). Thank you Gary for writing that book and producing those videos. These have cleared up many questions and suspicions I've had concerning E.T. as a demonic manifestation and I use your material often while witnessing. Yes, Solomon is said to be the wisest of men who ever lived and his life still ended in shambles. This is why Paul said to pray to God and he will guard your hearts and minds in christ Jesus, (Php 4:6-7) because we humans are so easily deceived and mislead. It seems we are prone to run to everything except the truth. We are a rebellious stiff necked generation. I will also pray for Mr. Redfern and other researchers who are open to the truth; that they may find Christ in all this and know the truth that produces the peace of God.

Hope to visit you folks at CMI soon.

Jon S., South Africa, 5 July 2016

There will always be giants to face. The truths in the Word of God can overcome them all. It can especially guide us what to research to find the hole in their arguments.

Philip S., United Kingdom, 5 July 2016

There is a dark spiritual force, he is called Satan in the Bible, and he is known as the deceiver.

robert R., Australia, 5 July 2016

If the theory that the universe is a hologram - made by information at the edge of the universe [proposed, I think, from observations that light is both a wave and a particle - but you can only observe one or the other - like when you observe a hologram] then all demons would have to do to manifest on Earth would be to manipulate info on the surface at the edge of the universe. Similar if God wanted to walk in the Garden of Eden, or a Serpent wanted to talk, then all a higher force would have to do is manipulate how the info is encoded... but to a human like me, 3D, looks real. Ghosts, demons, paranormal...all just a natural law of info...

Gary Bates responds

I'm not quite sure we'd agree with the methodology explanation you've invoked here. It sounds a bit like a naturalist method that God may have used. We need to keep in mind that God is 'supernatural', that is, above nature and thus is not bound by the physical laws that govern our universe. We should not constrain him to those natural laws to create or even do miracles. I recommend Miracles and science for a good explanation of this.

Gian Carlo B., Puerto Rico, 5 July 2016

It's amazing how fallen angels work. It's like there is a conspiracy plan among them. They be like: "Well, nobody believes in Zeus and Jupiter anymore, but they are fantasizing about gnomes and fairies. Let's do that!" And now today, they are: "Welp. Nobody believes in fairies anymore. But hey, these guys think there is an unseen extraterrestrial in A planet. Let's go like we always do!" And lo and behold: they adapt to the false idols of the ever shifting era of false idolatries. In Antedilluvian times, it was the fallen angels themselves. But after Babel, it was heathen gods that looked beautiful and enticing. Then it was fantastic creatures of the spirit realm. Now it is aliens of deep space and dark lords of the netherrealms. The demons play whatever man wants to believe just to get away from the One True YHVH. It's pitiful to watch, but true.

Anthony W., Australia, 4 July 2016

Hi Gary, was just curious about what, if any, feedback you've had from secular UFOlogists in regards to your findings in the area? I'll be very interested to hear what Nick Redfern makes of your book.

Gary Bates responds

Quite a few secular UFOlogists are aware of it and have commented fairly as they are genuinely looking for answers like everyone else. However, there are some who have preconceived new-age type agendas so they tend to be dismissive of the supernatural/Christian angle. A good example is Steven Greer. See Sirius the movie review.

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