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Is Belief in God a case of Christian wish fulfillment?
Published: 27 March 2010(GMT+10)
John F. from the U.K. wrote in reply to the
review of Antony Flew’s book There is A God. He raised some
questions and quotations from atheist authors who argue that the idea of God is
a case of wish-fulfillment. John’s letter is first printed in full, followed
by a point-by-point response by the reviewer, Lita Cosner.
Why do you believe in God?
Why do you refer to HIM as your heavenly father?
As children we grow up knowing our father is there to look after us, protect us
and solve our problems. Also, it is known that the religious feelings of our parents,
who we believe would not lie to us, play a strong part in our development. When
we grow up we are faced with the horror of making our way through life ON OUR OWN.
We come face to face with reality, of the need for “success” and the
fear of failure and death.
“We have a strong unbearable feeling of helplessness, so that our thoughts
become related to a power outside ourselves, there is nothing we do, think or feel
which is not known to this power. We expect protection by Him, wish to be taken
care of by Him, make Him responsible … ..” (Erich Fromm “Escape
to freedom”).
Talking to religious people: “ … after we tell you something, and you
just can’t believe it. You can’t accept it. You don’t like it.
A screen comes down and you won’t listen any more. But that’s how nature
is, and if you don’t like it that is going to get in the way of your understanding
it. It is a problem that physicists have learned to deal with” ( Richard Feynman)
Dear John,
Why do you believe in God?
If the Bible got earthly events right, it can be assumed to be trustworthy when
talking about heavenly things too.
For many reasons. First, because the Bible,
which has proved to be an excellent historical source, even when subjected
to more scrutiny than any other document in history, claims to be God’s revelation
of Himself and His actions in the world. I believe that the Bible is a reliable
theological source based on its historical accuracy; if the Bible got earthly events
right, it can be assumed to be trustworthy when talking about heavenly things too
(John 3:12). Furthermore, certain events are unexplainable
unless the biblical events actually happened. For instance, it is very unlikely
that a Galilean peasant with a band of fishermen would go on to be the most famous
and influential person in history, and that days after his execution for being a
political insurgent (claiming to be King of the Jews), his disciples would go from
cowering in a crowded room afraid for their own lives to boldly proclaiming that
the man had risen from the dead in a bodily resurrection; an idea completely contrary
to Jewish thought. The only thing that makes this plausible is if Jesus actually
was the Son of God incarnate, who actually was resurrected.
Second, I believe that the best explanation for the combination of complexity and
imperfection that we see in creation is that creation was once perfect and has since
fallen from that state, since it is much easier to break something than it is to
create it. Naturalistic evolution lacks the mechanism to create the fascinating
structures we see in nature, many of which inspire human engineers to improve their
own designs. If nature has better structures than humans can design, I think the
best explanation is that creation had a better Designer, and we still see this,
despite the fallen state of creation.
Third, I am not persuaded that sentience and ethicality could arise from dead matter
as simply the result of chemical reactions which happen in the brain. There is evidence
that humans are more than just physical beings; that we have a non-physical
part of us too, which could be termed the mind or the soul. The brain is a vehicle
for the mind, but it is not the same as the mind, since things can be said of the
mind which are not true of the brain. For instance, if I think about something while
I am hooked to a brain scanner, a neurologist could see the areas of my brain that
light up, and might be able to tell if I’m using visual or language areas
of the brain, but he could not know from the brain scan what I’m
thinking of unless I tell him. For more, see
The conscious mind: evolutionary difficulties.
I also note that you didn’t address any of the reasons that the famous atheistic
philosopher Antony Flew gave, as noted in my review that you’re replying to.
Why do you refer to HIM as your heavenly father?
Christians call God our Heavenly Father because He is our Heavenly Father.
The short answer is: we call Him our Heavenly Father because He is our
Heavenly Father. Because Jesus Christ died a sacrificial death which is effective
for all who believe in Him for salvation and forgiveness of sins, we can be reconciled
to God, and adopted into His family, an inconceivable gift, and one of the most
dramatic proofs of God’s love for us (1 John 3:1). Both the Holy Spirit and our spirit testify
to the fact that we are children of God (Romans 8:16); we are even called co-heirs with Christ (8:17).
This relationship comes with responsibilities as well as benefits, however; because
of our status as children of God, we are commanded to live according to God’s
code of ethics (Philippians 2:15).
Entrance into God’s family is not something that anyone can be good enough
to earn; there is no way to reconcile ourselves to God, because we are all born
as “children of Satan,” in that, like Satan, we rebel against God, and
we sin. Without the Holy Spirit’s work, we could not even see membership in
God’s family as desirable, much less attain it. Furthermore, every person
who has ever lived has belonged to one of the two “families”; the Bible
presents a clear dichotomy; either you are with God, or you are with Satan (for
example, 1 John 3:10).
If you are objecting to the male pronoun, see my article What’s
in a pronoun? The divine gender controversy.
As children we grow up knowing our father is there to look after us, protect us
and solve our problems. Also, it is known that the religious feelings of our parents,
who we believe would not lie to us, play a strong part in our development. When
we grow up we are faced with the horror of making our way through life ON OUR OWN.
We come face to face with reality, of the need for “success” and the
fear of failure and death.
Nice psychoanalysis, but you should know that this old Freudian stuff has been discounted
long ago. In any case, this does not explain all situations. Someone who was abused
by his father, for instance, might find the idea of God as Father to be a stumbling
block, not a comfort. Someone who is forced to become independent at an early age
might pride herself on being independent and be reluctant to admit that she is dependent
on God. You have to admit that, if nothing else, Christians are not as one-dimensional
as you’ve portrayed them to be.
“We have a strong unbearable feeling of helplessness, so that our thoughts
become related to a power outside ourselves, there is nothing we do, think or feel
which is not known to this power. We expect protection by Him, wish to be taken
care of by Him, make Him responsible … ..” (Erich Fromm “Escape
to freedom”).
Or perhaps the feeling of ‘helplessness’ as you put it is because we
are helpless with the vast majority of circumstances. We do not get to
choose which family we’re born into, how other peoples’ reactions affect
us, and so on. The feeling of control over our own fate is the actual illusion.
And the knowledge that there is a God that is above all of that, who is actually
in control, is a comfort, though atheists like yourself mock that.
Talking to religious people: “ … after we tell you something, and you
just can’t believe it.
Well, I have to decide who to believe. The Bible has a great record when it comes
to historical reliability, it has a claim to be the very Word of God, which its
reliability in other areas backs up, and following its teachings has proven to change
people’s lives across millennia and various cultures. What do you have to
offer to rival that?
You can’t accept it. You don’t like it.
I think very few people like all the Bible’s commands all the time;
it’s part of our sinful nature to want to rebel, especially when we first
convert, and sin can be “fun” in a momentary, shallow way. There are
parts of the Bible that challenge every Christian; the specific challenges can differ
based on the culture a Christian lives in, that Christian’s personality, and
what sins they’ve participated in during the past.
You seem to also be working from a fake wish-fulfillment view of Christianity where
God is the cosmic Grandpa who gives out goodies and is endlessly only loving,
which is not the case. Christianity is not the easy path to success that some televangelists
claim it is, especially when the Bible’s commands run counter to everything
the world tells us we should seek and love, although we in Western nations hardly
have anything to complain about compared to our brothers and sisters who are being
persecuted and killed around the world for the Gospel; more have been martyred in
the last century than the previous 19 centuries combined. But we choose
to accept the Bible’s teachings because it claims to be inspired by a God
who created us, and thus knows what’s best for us more than anyone else. The
Bible promises eternal things in return for the transitory and shallow
sins we’re commanded to give up; God gives much better things than
the world can offer. And He has proved His love for us by sending His Son to die
a horrific death for our salvation. Again, what do you have to offer to rival that?
In fact, your whole approach commits the genetic fallacy, the error of
trying to disprove a belief by tracing it to its source. But the truth of Christianity
depends on the facts I’ve mentioned; it is unaffected by any alleged reasons
why people believe these facts. See
Loving God with all your mind: logic and creation.
C.S. Lewis put it another way in his essay “Bulverism” (1941)
from God in the Dock:
… you must show that a man is wrong before you start explaining
why he is wrong. The modern method is to assume without discussion that
he is wrong and then distract his attention from this (the only real issue) by busily
explaining how he became to be so silly. In the course of the last fifteen years
I have found this vice so common that I have had to invent a name for it. I call
it “Bulverism.” Some day I am going the write the biography of its imaginary
inventor, Ezekiel Bulver, whose destiny was determined at the age of five when he
heard his mother say to his father—who had been maintaining that two sides
of a triangle were together greater than the third—“Oh, you say that
because you are a man.” “At that moment,” E. Bulver assures
us, “there flashed across my opening mind the great truth that refutation
is no necessary part of argument. Assume your opponent is wrong, and then explain
his error, and the world will be at your feet. Attempt to prove that he is wrong
or (worse still) try to find out whether he is wrong or right, and the national
dynamism of our age will thrust you to the wall.” That is how Bulver became
one of the makers of the Twentieth Century.
I find the fruits of his discovery almost everywhere. Thus I see my religion dismissed
on the grounds that “the comfortable parson had every reason for assuring
the nineteenth century worker that poverty would be rewarded in another world.”
Well, no doubt he had. On the assumption that Christianity is an error, I can see
clearly enough that some people would still have a motive for inculcating it. I
see it so easily that I can, of course, play the game the other way round, by saying
that “the modern man has every reason for trying to convince himself that
there are no eternal sanctions behind the morality he is rejecting.” For Bulverism
is a truly democratic game in the sense that all can play it all day long, and that
it give no unfair advantage to the small and offensive minority who reason. But
of course it gets us not one inch nearer to deciding whether, as a matter of fact,
the Christian religion is true or false. That question remains to be discussed on
quite different grounds—a matter of philosophical and historical argument.
However it were decided, the improper motives of some people, both for believing
it and for disbelieving it, would remain just as they are.
I see Bulverism at work in every political argument. The capitalists must be bad
economists because we know why they want capitalism, and equally Communists must
be bad economists because we know why they want Communism. Thus, the Bulverists
on both sides. In reality, of course, either the doctrines of the capitalists are
false, or the doctrines of the Communists, or both; but you can only find out the
rights and wrongs by reasoning—never by being rude about your opponent’s
psychology.
Until Bulverism is crushed, reason can play no effective part in human affairs.
Each side snatches it early as a weapon against the other; but between the two reason
itself is discredited. And why should reason not be discredited? It would be easy,
in answer, to point to the present state of the world, but the real answer is even
more immediate. The forces discrediting reason, themselves depend of reasoning.
You must reason even to Bulverize. You are trying to prove that all proofs
are invalid. If you fail, you fail. If you succeed, then you fail even more—for
the proof that all proofs are invalid must be invalid itself.
A screen comes down and you won’t listen any more. But that’s how nature
is, and if you don’t like it that is going to get in the way of your understanding
it. It is a problem that physicists have learned to deal with” ( Richard Feynman)
It is ironic that you criticize us for unthinking belief in God, but your argument
is mostly unthinking parroting of atheists whose books would not stand up to even
a small fraction of the scrutiny the Bible has withstood.
Sincerely,
Lita Cosner
Information Officer
Creation Ministries International
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