Creation answers (frequently asked questions)
Some key articles
§ Topics arranged by subject category
Astronomy
Bible, God, theology
Biology (creation vs evolution)
- Origin of life (origin of life
theories critiqued, including life-from-space)
- Design features (dozens! ID,
biomimetics, ‘bad’ design, astronomy, irreducible complexity)
- Natural selection (yes, it
happens but it is not the same as evolution)
- Mutations (yes, they happen, but
they can’t change microbes into microbiologists)
- Speciation (yes, it happens, but
it is limited to variation within the created kind)
- Genetics (‘mitochondrial Eve’, ape vs human DNA, gene duplication, genetic engineering, cloning, longevity of patriarchs)
- Information theory (including
DNA) (information defined, claimed new information)
- Probabilities (could life arise
by chance? What about computer simulations of evolution?)
- Thermodynamics and order (how the laws of thermodynamics contradict naturalism)
- Vestigial organs (including
‘junk’ DNA)
- Homology and Embryology (Haeckel’s fraudulent concept, plus similarities due
to common design)
- Charles Darwin (his religious
views, contribution to human suffering, natural selection vs evolution)
Creation: relevance to Christianity, society and science
- Creation: Why It matters
- Death and suffering (Why?
Origin of bad things such as poisons, carnivory, Satan)
- Creation compromises (theistic evolution, gap
theory, progressive creation, framework, etc.)
- Apologetics defending the
faith (proof & presuppositions, New Age, postmodernism, hell)
- Philosophy (logic and faith, proof
of God, evolution and materialism)
- Countering the Critics
(anti-creationists, ‘bad’ design, probability, ‘proof’ for
an old earth)
- Bible ‘contradictions’ and ‘errors’ (answering attacks on the Bible)
- Communism and Nazism (the evolution connection)
- Science (what is it? Is creation or
evolution science?)
- Arguments creationists
should NOT use
- Creation Scientists (and other biographies)
Geology, the Flood, the Ice Age and the age of the earth
- Young Age Evidence (astronomy,
botany, geology, fossils, caves, coal, glaciology, human history, oceanography)
- Radiometric Dating (radiometric dating problems, flaws, rapid decay? radiohalos)
- Flood (global? fish survival? Black Sea flood? flood legends).
- Noah’s Ark (size, construction, stability, feasibility, care for animals, diseases, biogeography)
- Geology (Flood evidences, coal formation, limestone caves, rapid rocks, age of fossils?)
- Ice Age (post-Flood Ice Age, ice core
dating, multiple Ice Ages? mammoths)
History
- Archaeology (archaeology and the
Bible, from the Flood to New Testament times)
- History (including biblical chronology, genealogies, origin of deep time beliefs)
- Linguistics (languages point to the Tower of Babel, animals talking?)
Paleontology
- Fossils (rapid formation, missing links, living fossils, dino-birds?, whale origins, tetrapods)
- Anthropology (human
ancestry, alleged ape-men)
- Dinosaurs (humans coexist with? evidence against millions of years, birds from dinosaurs?
- Mammoths (how they fit with the post-Flood Ice Age)
Social and ethical issues
§ Topics arranged by alphabetical order
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| 1 | Evolution definition Kerkut |
| 2 | God of evolution diabolical |
| 3 | Flat earth leader is an evolutionist |
| 4 | Hoyle Origin of Life |
| 5 | Lewis on evolution |
| 6 | Bernard Wood: Human evolution icon illusion |
| 7 | Gould stasis a problem |
| 8 | Cosmology is not science James Gunn |
| 9 | Ronald Reagan on the divinity of Christ |
| 10 | Origin of life: a matter of faith |
| 11 | German scientists at first laughed at Darwin |
| 12 | Germany's other Darwin-inspired Holocaust |
| 13 | Kirschner evolution relevance |
| 14 | E.J. Young: Question science not Bible |
| 15 | Josef Ton on evolution and liberal theology |
| 16 | Dawkins Christianity bulwark against something worse |
| 17 | Eugenics: a Darwin family business |
| 18 | Conant Fantasia |
| 19 | Eldredge trouble with horse evolution |
| 20 | Slavery abolished by Christians, not the "Enlightenment" |
| 21 | Charles Lyell free science from Moses |
| 22 | Fall of Adam played vital role in development of Western science Harrison |
| 23 | Christians and academic respectability Doug Wilson |
| 24 | Treason of the intellectuals Sproul |
| 25 | Evolutionists should not claim that evolution is proven |
| 26 | Genetic algorithms are irrelevant to evolution |
| 27 | Harrison: Literal interpretation of Bible played vital role in development of science |
| 28 | Evolutionary racists claimed that white people had bigger brains than darker-skinned people |
| 29 | Modern science owes much to straightforward understanding of Scripture (Stephen Snobelen) |
| 30 | Franklin Harold: no detailed Darwinian accounts |
| 31 | Dr Broughton Knox, former principal of Moore College, denounced evolution |
| 32 | James Mellor Brown warned of dangers of long-age compromises in 1838! |
| 33 | Todd Beall, OT Prof.: take Genesis 1 as written, rather than crave secular respectability |
| 34 | Weeks: Does the Bible really teach a three-storey cosmology? |
| 35 | The church v Galileo: how the church accepted the science of its day |
| 36 | Haeckel's scientific religion |
| 37 | Dobzhansky: natural selection cannot explain the origin of first life |
| 38 | Liberal Marcus Dods: If Genesis 1 doesn't teach literal days, we can't understand Scripture |
| 39 | Darwinian explanations are too flexible to be useful |
| 40 | Evolution: superfluous to real biological research |
| 41 | Stephen Jay Gould on Racism |
| 42 | Government school classrooms: temples of humanism? |
| 43 | Eugenie Scott admits: if students heard criticism of evolution, they might not believe it. |
| 44 | Dawkins on compromising churchians |
| 45 | Has evolution been observed? (Dawkins) |
| 46 | Human soul and religion are just the product of evolution (Julian Huxley) |
| 47 | Why doesn't Sir David Attenborough give credit to God? |
| 48 | Huttons a priori commitment to materialism |
| 49 | Charles Hodge rejected natural sense of Genesis |
| 50 | Wm. Provine: Evolution = atheism, no purpose |
| 51 | 'Progressive creationist' Pattle Pun of Wheaton College |
| 52 | 'Progressive creationist' Gleason Archer on the obvious meaning of Genesis |
| 53 | Boyce Rensberger: Science and bias |
| 54 | Davis Young: why he abandoned the day-age theory |
| 55 | We make the rules now? |
| 56 | Suicide and Evolution |
| 57 | Spontaneous generation and perpetual motion machines (Yockey) |
| 58 | Cairns-Smith: detailed criticisms of the RNA world hypothesis |
| 59 | Chemical evolution: faith not fact (Yockey) |
| 60 | Primeval soup—failed paradigm (Yockey) |
| 61 | Mass murderer (Dahmer) on evolution v. morality |
| 62 | Fidelity to God, J.P. Moreland |
| 63 | Oxford Hebraist James Barr: Genesis means what it says! |
| 64 | Arthur Keith on Hitler and Evolution |
| 65 | Michael Ruse: Evolution is a religion |
| 66 | A designer is unscientific—even if all the evidence supports one! |
| 67 | Darwin versus Compassion |
| 68 | C.S. Lewis: Science began with belief in a Lawmaker |
| 69 | The religion of scientism, M. Shallis |
| 70 | Pterosaurs and bats have always been pterosaurs and bats! |
| 71 | Aldous Huxley: Admits motive for anti-theistic bias |
| 72 | Singing bones |
| 73 | Darwinists’ tactics (Phillip Johnson) |
| 74 | Groping in the dark |
| 75 | Big bang faith (Burbidge) |
| 76 | Sonntag & Van Wylen: 2nd Law, evidence for Creator |
| 77 | Prof Sir Edmund Leech: neo-Darwinians 'conservative bigots' |
| 78 | Geological Timescale: Ronald West, Stephen Jay Gould |
| 79 | George Stravropoulos:crystals are poor analogy to biomolecules |
| 80 | J.B. Waterhouse, how good is the geological record? |
| 81 | Wayne A. Moyer, National Association of Biology Teachers |
| 82 | The Atheists Know Why Christianity has to Fight Evolution (Bozarth) |
| 83 | When Soviets find the Gospel |
| 84 | Kooks vs. Darwinists (Johnson) |
| 85 | Lack of fossils (J.S. Jones) |
| 86 | Genetics has no proofs for evolution: leading geneticist (Giertych) |
| 87 | Atomic clocks reset? |
| 88 | An atheist believes (Isaac Asimov) |
| 89 | Fossil record’s incompleteness |
| 90 | No real theory of evolution |
| 91 | Neo-Darwinism like Ptolemaic cosmology, Lejeune |
| 92 | Ronald Reagan: lack of moral framework |
| 93 | No acceptable theory of evolution, Lejeune |
| 94 | Lejeune, Schützenberger, Eckhardt, Nicholas, Park |
| 95 | Greg Kerby: paleontologists exaggerate importance of findings |
| 96 | Dickerson: Chemical Evolution and the Origin of Life |
| 97 | Kennedy, Bohm and Martin |
| 98 | Gould and Heribert-Nilsson |
| 99 | Twisted Thinking |
| 100 | Spurgeon on evolution |
| 101 | Evolution incompatible with Christianity |
| 102 | Evolution: no morality (Dawkins) |
| 103 | Amazing admission - Lewontin Quote |
| 104 | Ape-man drawings: evolutionary preconceptions |
| 105 | Darwinism, morality and the tiger (Chesterton) |
| 106 | Archaeologist Speaks Out (Clifford Wilson) |
| 107 | Science ... a reality check |
| 108 | Ape-man olympics |
| 109 | Emmanuel College: 'Doing something right' |
| 110 | Darwinism—a cult? (Peter Hitchens) |
| 111 | What made England a pagan nation? |
| 112 | Media bias on origins |
| 113 | H.G. Wells, evolution and the Gospel |
| 114 | Death in the garden (Darwin & eugenics) |
| 115 | C.S. Lewis on materialistic thoughts |
| 116 | Muggeridge Evolution Greatest Joke? |
Arguments we think creationists should NOT use
The primary authority for Creation Ministries International is the infallible
Word of God, the Bible (see
Q&A Bible). All theories of science are fallible, and new data often
overturn previously held theories. Evolutionists continually revise their theories
because of new data, so it should not be surprising or distressing that some creationist
scientific theories need to be revised too.
The first article on this page sums up what we believe the creationists’ attitude
should be about various ideas and theories. The other articles provide examples
of arguments that we think should no longer be used; some arguments are definitely
fallacious, while others are merely doubtful or unsubstantiated. We provide brief
explanations why, and/or hyperlinks to other articles on this Web site with more
detailed explanations. We don’t claim that this list is exhaustive—it
will be updated with additions and maybe deletions as new evidence is discovered.
Many of these arguments have never been promoted by CMI, and some have
not been promoted by any major creationist organization (so they were not directed
at anyone in particular), but are instead straw men set up by anti-creationists.
It is notable that some skeptics criticise creationists when they retract doubtful
arguments, but these are also the same people who accuse creationists of being unwilling
to change their minds!
Persisting in using discredited arguments simply rebounds—it’s the truth
that sets us free (John
8:32), not error, and Christ is ‘the truth’
(John
14:6)! Since there is so much good evidence for creation, there is no need
to use any of the ‘doubtful’ arguments.
This page also shows why it is important for people to stay up-to-date with sound
creationist literature, since these publications (e.g. Creation
magazine, and the Journal of Creation—formerly TJ) have already revealed
the fallacious nature of some of these arguments.
We also remind our readers that CMI is primarily pro-Bible,
not anti-establishment for its own sake. in particular, we concentrate
on the biblical teachings of creation by the
Triune God, and that death is the result
of sin. Our anti-evolution/millions of years stance is the corollary
of this, not the end in itself. By extension, oppose the ‘establishment’
only where it conflicts with the Bible. So we urge Christians to ensure that their
stance comes from being pro-Bible, not a knee-jerk anti-establishmentism.
[Ed. notes:
- For CMI’s point-by-point response to an attempted critique of this page, see
Maintaining Creationist Integrity.
- Creation magazine
published a condensed form of this article,
Moving forward: Arguments we think creationists shouldn't use, which is
available in
Spanish]
What is important for creationists to defend, and what should be held more loosely?
Which arguments should definitely not be used?
- ‘Darwin
recanted on his deathbed’. Many people use this story, originally
from a Lady Hope. However, it is almost certainly not true, and there is no corroboration
from those who were closest to him, even from Darwin’s wife Emma, who never
liked evolutionary ideas. Also, even if true, so what? If a prominent creationist
recanted Creation, would that disprove it? There is no value to this argument whatever.
- ‘Moon-Dust thickness
proves a young moon.’ For a long time, creationists claimed that
the dust layer on the moon was too thin if dust had truly been falling on it for
billions of years. They based this claim on early estimates—by evolutionists—of
the influx of moon dust, and worries that the moon landers would sink into this
dust layer. But these early estimates were wrong, and by the time of the Apollo
landings, NASA was not worried about sinking. So the dust layer thickness can’t
be used as proof of a young moon (or of an old one either). See also
Moon Dust and the Age of the Solar System (Technical).
- ‘NASA computers, in calculating the positions of planets, found a
missing day and 40 minutes, proving Joshua’s “long
day” and Hezekiah’s sundial movement of Joshua 10 and 2 Kings
20.’ Not promoted by major creationist organizations, but an hoax
in wide circulation, especially on the Internet.
Essentially the same story, now widely circulated on the Internet, appeared in the
somewhat unreliable 1936 book The Harmony of Science and Scripture by Harry
Rimmer. Evidently an unknown person embellished it with modern organization names
and modern calculating devices.
Also, the whole story is mathematically impossible—it requires a fixed reference
point before Joshua’s long day. In fact we would need to cross-check
between both astronomical and historical records to detect any
missing day. And to detect a missing 40 minutes requires that these reference points
be known to within an accuracy of a few minutes. It is certainly true that the timing
of solar eclipses observable from a certain location can be known precisely. But
the ancient records did not record time that precisely, so the required cross-check
is simply not possible. Anyway, the earliest historically recorded eclipse occurred
in 1217 BC, nearly two centuries after Joshua. So there is
no way the missing day could be detected by any computer. See also Has NASA Discovered a ‘Missing Day’?
for historical and scientific documentation that this alleged discovery is mythological.
Note that discrediting this myth doesn’t mean that the events of Joshua 10
didn’t happen. Features in the account support its reliability, e.g. the moon
was also slowed down. This was not necessary to prolong the day, but this would
be observed from Earth’s reference frame if God had accomplished this miracle
by slowing Earth’s rotation. See Joshua’s
long day—did it really happen?
- ‘Woolly
mammoths were snap frozen during the Flood catastrophe.’ This
is contradicted by the geological setting in which mammoths are found. It’s
most likely that they perished toward the end of the Ice Age, possibly in catastrophic
dust storms. Partially digested stomach contents are not proof of a snap freeze,
because the elephant’s stomach functions as a holding area—a mastodon
with preserved stomach contents was found in mid-western USA, where the ground was
not frozen. See also The extinction of the woolly mammoth:
was it a quick freeze?
- ‘NASA faked the moon landings.’
This NASA hoax claim is an example of where CMI reminds readers that we are pro-Bible
rather than anti-establishment for the sake of it.
First, it is biblical to trust multiple eye-witnesses (cf.
Deuteronomy 19:15), and one impeccable witness is the late James Irwin,
who was a staunch biblical creationist and walked on the moon. Also, Australia must
have been in on the alleged hoax; the huge radio antenna at Parkes Observatory,
New South Wales, was used to relay the signals from the moon, since it was on the
Australian not the American side of Earth (cf. the Australian film The Dish,
2000). We can also shine powerful lasers to certain spots on the moon and
detect reflected light of the laser frequency, possible only if someone had been
to the moon and laid out retro-reflectors in those spots.
Second: the hoax claims show faulty understanding of science (cf. Mythbusters
episode #104 (0702), 2008):
- CLAIM: Photos should show parallel shadows with only one light source, the sun;
non-parallel shadows prove it was a studio set with multiple lights. Actually, because
of the irregular lunar topography, parallel shadows can look non-parallel
in the perspective of the film.
- CLAIM: Astronaut in the shadow of the spacecraft was easily visible, which would
not have been possible with only one light source. This forgets another source:
moonlight! Reflected light from the lunar surface would make the
astronaut easily visible. Also, Earthlight is much brighter on the moon than moonlight
is on earth, because Earth is much higher in both surface area and albedo.
- CLAIM: Photos had no stars, hence they were in a studio. No, a camera set for
optimal performance in the bright light of the lunar surface would not be sensitive
enough to show stars.
- CLAIM: Footprints would not have been left in sand without moisture to hold the
sand in place. True on earth, where water tends to round out sand
grains. The lunar grains were angular and held the shape.
- CLAIM: The flag fluttered, so there must have been a breeze. No, the astronaut
twisted the flagpole to plant it in the moon soil; this caused fluttering, which
persisted for a while since there was no air resistance.
- CLAIM: Moon walks were done in studio set. But the closest we come to such movements
is in an airplane falling so fast that it simulates lunar gravity, 1/6 that of Earth.
- ‘The Castenedolo and Calaveras human remains in “old”
strata invalidate the geologic column.’ These are not sound examples—the
Castenedolo skeletal material shows evidence of being an intrusive burial, i.e.
a recent burial into older strata, since all the fossils apart from the human ones
had time to be impregnated with salt. The Calaveras skull was probably a hoax planted
into a mine by miners. For the current CMI view on human fossil stratigraphy, see
Where are all the human
fossils?
- ‘Dubois renounced Java man as a “missing link” and claimed
it was just a giant gibbon.’ Evolutionary anthropology textbooks
claimed this, and creationists followed suit. However, this actually misunderstood
Dubois, as Stephen Jay Gould has shown. It’s true that Dubois claimed that
Java man (which he called Pithecanthropus erectus) had the proportions
of a gibbon. But Dubois had an eccentric view of evolution (universally discounted
today) that demanded a precise correlation between brain size and body weight. Dubois’
claim about Java man actually contradicted the reconstructed evidence of
its likely body mass. But it was necessary for Dubois’ idiosyncratic proposal
that the alleged transitional sequence leading to man fit into a mathematical series.
So Dubois’ gibbon claim was designed to reinforce its ‘missing
link‘ status. See Who was ‘Java
man’?
- ‘The Japanese trawler Zuiyo Maru caught a dead plesiosaur
near New Zealand.’ This carcass was almost certainly a rotting basking
shark, since their gills and jaws rot rapidly and fall off, leaving the typical
small ‘neck’ with the head. This has been shown by similar specimens
washed up on beaches. Also, detailed anatomical and biochemical studies of the Zuiyo-maru
carcass show that it could not have been a plesiosaur. See
Live plesiosaurs: weighing the evidence and
Letting rotting sharks lie: Further evidence that the Zuiyo-maru carcass was a basking
shark, not a plesiosaur. See also A ‘tail’
of many monsters and
Parkie: a new ‘pseudoplesiosaur’ washed up on the Nova Scotia coast.
- ‘The 2nd Law
of Thermodynamics began at the Fall.’ This law says that the
entropy (‘disorder’) of the Universe increases over time, and some have
thought that this was the result of the Curse. However, disorder isn’t always
harmful. An obvious example is digestion, breaking down large complex food molecules
into their simple building blocks. Another is friction, which turns ordered mechanical
energy into disordered heat—otherwise Adam and Eve would have slipped as they
walked with God in Eden! A less obvious example to laymen might be the sun heating
the Earth—to a physical chemist, heat transfer from a hot object to a cold
one is the classic case of the Second Law in action. Also, breathing is based on
another classic Second Law process, gas moving from a high pressure to low pressure.
Finally, all beneficial processes in the world, including the development from embryo
to adult, increase the overall disorder of the universe, showing that the Second
Law is not inherently a curse.
Death and suffering of nephesh animals before sin are contrary
to the Biblical framework above, as are suffering (or ‘groaning
in travail’ (Rom.
8:20–22)). It is more likely that God withdrew some of His sustaining
power (Col.
1:15–17) at the Fall so that the decay effect of the Second Law was
no longer countered.
- ‘If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes today?’
In response to this statement, some evolutionists point out that they don’t
believe that we descended from apes, but that apes and humans share a common ancestor.
However, the evolutionary paleontologist G.G. Simpson had no time for this ‘pussyfooting’,
as he called it. He said, ‘In fact, that earlier ancestor would certainly
be called an ape or monkey in popular speech by anyone who saw it. Since the terms
ape and monkey are defined by popular usage, man’s ancestors were apes or
monkeys (or successively both). It is pusillanimous if not dishonest for an informed
investigator to say otherwise.’
However, the main point against this statement is that many evolutionists believe
that a small group of creatures split off from the main group and became reproductively
isolated from the main large population, and that most change happened in the small
group which can lead to allopatric speciation (a geographically isolated
population forming a new species). So there’s nothing in evolutionary theory
that requires the main group to become extinct.
It’s important to note that allopatric speciation is not the sole property
of evolutionists—creationists believe that most human variation occurred after
small groups became isolated (but not speciated) at Babel, while Adam and Eve probably
had mid-brown skin color. The quoted erroneous statement is analogous to saying
‘If all people groups came from Adam and Eve, then why are mid-brown people
still alive today?’
So what’s the difference between the creationist explanation of people groups
(‘races’) and the evolutionist
explanation of people origins? Answer: the former involves separation of
already-existing information and loss of information through mutations; the latter
requires the generation of tens of millions of ‘letters’ of new
information.
- ‘Women have one more rib than men.’ We have long pointed
out the fallacy of this statement, which seems to be more popular with dishonest
skeptics wanting to caricature creation. The removal of a rib would not affect the
genetic instructions passed on to the offspring, any more than a man who
loses a finger will have sons with nine fingers. Any skeptic who tries to discredit
the Bible with this argument must be a closet Lamarckian, i.e. one who believes
Lamarck’s thoroughly discredited idea of inheritance of acquired characteristics!
Note also that Adam wouldn’t have had a permanent defect, because the rib
is the one bone that can regrow if the surrounding membrane (periosteum) is left
intact. See Regenerating
ribs: Adam and that ‘missing’ rib.
- ‘Archaeopteryx
is a fraud.’ Archaeopteryx was genuine (unlike
Archaeoraptor, a ‘Piltdown bird’), as shown by anatomical
studies and close analysis of the fossil slab. It was a true bird, not
a ‘missing link’.
- ‘There are no beneficial mutations.’ This is not true,
since some changes do confer an advantage in some situations. Rather, we
should say, ‘We have yet to find a mutation that increases genetic information
in ways needed for microbes-to-man evolution to be feasible. Even in those rare
instances where the mutation confers an advantage they almost always cause loss
of information.’ For examples of information loss being advantageous,
see Beetle Bloopers:
defects can be an advantage sometimes,
New eyes for blind cave fish? and
Is antibiotic resistance really due to increase in information?
- ‘No new species have been produced.’ This is not true—new
species have been observed to form. In fact, rapid speciation is an important
part of the creation model. But this speciation is within the ‘kind’,
and involves no new genetic information. See
Q&A: Speciation.
- ‘Earth’s axis was vertical before the Flood.’
There is no basis for this claim. Seasons are mentioned in
Genesis 1:14 before the Flood, which strongly suggests an axial
tilt from the beginning. Some creationists believe that a change in axial tilt (but
not from the vertical) started Noah’s Flood. But a lot more evidence is needed
and this idea should be regarded as speculative for now. Furthermore, computer modelling
suggests that an upright axis would make temperature differences between the poles
and equator far more extreme than now, while the current tilt of 23.5°
is ideal. The Moon has an important function in stabilizing this tilt, and the Moon’s
large relative size and the fact that its orbital plane is close to the Earth’s
(unlike most moons in our solar system) are design features.
- ‘Paluxy
tracks prove that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.’ Some prominent
creationist promoters of these tracks have long since withdrawn their support. Some
of the allegedly human tracks may be artefacts of erosion of dinosaur tracks obscuring
the claw marks. There is a need for properly documented research on the tracks before
we would use them to argue the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs. However there
is much evidence that dinosaurs and humans co-existed—see
Q&A: Dinosaurs.
- Darwin’s quote about the absurdity of eye evolution from Origin
of Species. Citing his statement at face value is subtly out of context.
Darwin was talking about its seeming absurdity but then said that after all it was
quite easy to imagine that the eye could be built step-by-step (in his opinion,
with which we obviously disagree—see Darwin
v The Eye and
An eye for creation).
- ‘Earth’s division in the days of Peleg (Gen.
10:25) refers to catastrophic splitting of the continents.’ Commentators
both before and after Lyell and Darwin (including Calvin, Keil and Delitzsch, and
Leupold) are almost unanimous that this passage refers to linguistic division at
Babel and subsequent territorial division. We should always interpret Scripture
with Scripture, and there’s nothing else in Scripture to indicate that this
referred to continental division. But only eight verses on (note that chapter and
verse divisions were not inspired), the Bible states,
‘Now the whole earth had one language and one speech’ (Gen.
11:1), and as a result of their disobedience, ‘the
LORD confused the language of all the earth’
(Gen.
11:9). This conclusively proves that the ‘Earth’ that was divided
was the same Earth that spoke only one language, i.e. ‘Earth’ refers
in this context to the people of the Earth, not Planet Earth.
Another major problem is the scientific consequences of such splitting—another
global flood! This gives us the clue as to when the continents did move apart—during
Noah’s Flood—see below on plate tectonics.
For more information, see ‘In
Peleg’s days, days the earth was divided’: What does this mean?
- ‘The Septuagint records the correct Genesis chronology.’
This is not so. The Septuagint chronologies are demonstrably inflated, and contain
the (obvious) error that Methuselah lived 17 years after the Flood. The Masoretic
Text (on which almost all English translations are based) preserves the correct
chronology. See Williams, P.,
Some remarks preliminary to a Biblical chronology, CEN Technical Journal12(1):98–106,
1998.
- ‘There are gaps in the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 so the Earth
may be 10,000 years old or even more.’ This is not so. The language
is clear that they are strict chronologies, especially because they give the age
of the father at the birth of the next name in line. So the Earth is only about
6,000 years old. See Biblical chronogenealogies for
exegetical proof.
- ‘Jesus cannot have inherited genetic material from Mary, otherwise
He would have inherited original sin.’ This is not stated in Scripture
and even contradicts important points. The language of the NT indicates
physical descent, which must be true for Jesus to have fulfilled the prophecies
that He would be a descendant of
Abraham,
Jacob,
Judah and
David. Also, the Protevangelium of
Gen. 3:15, regarded as Messianic by both early Christians
and the Jewish Targums, refers to ‘the seed of the woman’.
This is supported by
Gal. 4:4, ‘God sent forth His Son, coming (genomenon)
from a woman.’ Most importantly, for Jesus to have died for
our sins, Jesus, the ‘last Adam’ (1
Cor. 15:45), had to share in our humanity (Heb.
2:14), so must have been our relative via common descent from
the first Adam as
Luke 3:38 says. In fact, seven centuries before His Incarnation, the Prophet
Isaiah spoke of Him as literally the ‘Kinsman-Redeemer’, i.e. one who
is related by blood to those he redeems (Isaiah
59:20, uses the same Hebrew word goel as used to describe Boaz
in relation to Ruth). To answer the concern about original sin, the Holy Spirit
overshadowed Mary (Luke
1:35), preventing any sin nature being transmitted. See also The Virginal Conception of Christ
for a defence of this foundational doctrine and further discussion of these Biblical
passages.
- ‘Light was created in transit.’ Some older creationist
works, as a solution to the distant starlight problem, proposed that God may have
created the light in transit. But CMI long ago pointed out the problems with this
idea.
It would entail that we would be seeing light from heavenly bodies that don’t really
exist; and even light that seems to indicate precise sequences of events predictable
by the laws of physics, but which never actually happened. This, in effect, suggests
that God is a deceiver.
For example, when a large star explodes as a supernova, we see a neutrino burst
before we see the electromagnetic radiation. This is because most neutrinos pass
through solid matter as if it were not there, while light is slowed down. This sequence
of events carries information recording an apparently real event. So astronomers
are perfectly justified in interpreting this ‘message’ as a real supernova
that exploded according to the laws of physics, with observations as predicted by
those same laws.
This is very different from creating Adam as fully grown, looking like a 20-year-old
(although incredibly youthful looking), say, although he was really only a few minutes
old. Here, there is no deception, because God has told us that He created
Adam from the dust, not by growing from an infant. But God has also told us that
the stars are real, and that they are signs (Genesis 1:14), not just apparitions
from light waves.
In answering the distant starlight question, first point out that
big bangers have their own problem with light travel time; second, point to
relativistic time dilation, as first proposed by Dr
Russell Humphreys, and extended by Dr John Hartnett
with Carmelian Cosmological Relativity. See the
Creation Answers Book, Chapter 5: How can we see stars in a young universe?,
as well as Dr Hartnett’s new book
Starlight, Time and the New Physics.
- ‘The phrase “science falsely so called”
in
1 Timothy 6:20 (KJV) refers to evolution.’ To develop a Scriptural
model properly, we must understand what the author intended to communicate
to his intended audience, which in turn is determined by the grammar and historical
context. We must not try to read into Scripture that which appears to support a
particular viewpoint. The original Greek word translated ‘science’ is
gnosis, and in this context refers to the élite esoteric
‘knowledge’ that was the key to the mystery religions, which later developed
into the heresy of Gnosticism.
This was not an error by the KJV translators, but an illustration of how
many words have changed their meanings over time. The word ‘science’
originally meant ‘knowledge’, from the Latin scientia, from
scio meaning ‘know’. This original meaning is just
not the way it is used today, so modern translations correctly
render the word as ‘knowledge’ in this passage.
Of course we believe that evolution is anti-knowledge because it clouds
the minds of many to the abundant evidence of God’s action in Creation and
the true knowledge available in His Word, the Bible. But as this page points out,
it is wrong to use fallacious arguments to support a true viewpoint. On a related
matter, it is linguistically fallacious to claim that even now, ‘science really
means knowledge’, because meaning is determined by usage, not derivation
(etymology).
- ‘Geocentrism (in the classical sense of taking the Earth as an
absolute reference frame) is taught by Scripture and Heliocentrism is anti-Scriptural.’
We reject this dogmatic geocentrism, and believes that the Biblical passages about
sunset etc. should be understood as taking the Earth as a reference frame, but that
this is one of many physically valid reference frames; the centre of mass of the
solar system is also a valid reference frame. See also
Q&A: Geocentrism, Faulkner, D.,
Geocentrism and Creation , TJ 15(2):110–121;
2001.
- ‘Ron
Wyatt has found Noah’s Ark’ This claimed Ark shape is a
natural geological formation caused by a mud flow.
- ‘Ron
Wyatt has found much archaeological proof of the Bible’ There
is not the slightest substantiation for Wyatt’s claims, just excuses to explain
away why the evidence is missing.
- Many of Carl Baugh’s creation ‘evidences’. Sorry
to say, we think that he’s well meaning but that he unfortunately uses a lot
of material that is not sound scientifically. So we advise against relying on any
‘evidence’ he provides, unless supported by creationist organisations
with reputations for Biblical and scientific rigour. Unfortunately, there are talented
creationist speakers with reasonably orthodox understandings of Genesis who continue
to promote some of the Wyatt and Baugh ‘evidences’ despite being approached
on the matter.
- ‘Missing solar neutrinos prove that the sun shines by gravitational
collapse, and is proof of a young sun.’ This is about a formerly
vexing problem of detecting only one third of the predicted numbers of neutrinos
from the sun. Also, accepted theories of particle physics said that the neutrino
had zero rest mass, which would prohibit oscillations from one ‘flavour’
to another. Therefore, consistent with the data then available, some creationists
proposed that the sun was powered one-third by fusion and two-thirds by gravitational
collapse. This would have limited the age to far less than 4.5 billion years. [See
subsequent article ‘Missing’
neutrinos found! No longer an ‘age’ indicator Ed.]
However, a new experiment was able to detect the ‘missing’ flavours,
which seems to provide conclusive evidence for oscillation. This means that neutrinos
must have a very tiny rest mass after all—experimental data must take precedence
over theory. Therefore creationists should no longer invoke the missing
neutrino problem to deny that fusion is the primary source of energy for the sun.
So it cannot be used as a young-age indicator—nor an old-age indicator for
that matter. See Newton, R., Missing neutrinos found! No longer an ‘age’
indicator, TJ 16(3):123–125, 2002.
- ‘Einstein held unswervingly, against enormous peer pressure, to belief
in a Creator.’ However, in the normal meaning of these terms, Einstein
believed no such thing.
See also Physicists’ God-talk.
What arguments are doubtful, hence inadvisable to use?
- Canopy theory. This is not a direct teaching of Scripture, so there
is no place for dogmatism. Also, no suitable model has been developed that holds
sufficient water; but some creationists suggest a partial canopy may have been present.
For CMI’s current opinion, see Noah’s Flood—Where did the water come from?.
- ‘There was no rain before the Flood.’ This is not a
direct teaching of Scripture, so again there should be no dogmatism.
Genesis 2:5–6 at face value teaches only that there was no rain at
the time Adam was created. But it doesn’t rule out rain at any later time
before the Flood, as great pre-uniformitarian commentators such as John Calvin pointed out.
A related fallacy is that the rainbow covenant of
Genesis 9:12–17 proves that there were no rainbows before the Flood.
As Calvin pointed out, God frequently invested existing things with new meanings,
e.g. the bread and wine at the Lord’s Supper.
- ‘Natural selection as tautology.’ Natural selection
is in one sense a tautology (i.e., Who are the fittest? Those who survive/leave
the most offspring. Who survive/leave the most offspring? The fittest.). But a lot
of this is semantic word-play, and depends on how the matter is defined, and for
what purpose the definition is raised. There are many areas of life in which circularity
and truth go hand in hand (e.g. What is electric charge? That quality of matter
on which an electric field acts. What is an electric field? A region in space that
exerts a force on electric charge. But no one would deny that the theory of electricity
is valid and can’t explain how motors work.)—it is only that circularity
cannot be used as independent proof of something. To harp on the issue of tautology
can become misleading, if the impression is given that something tautological therefore
doesn’t happen. Of course the environment can ‘select’, just as
human breeders select. Of course demonstrating this doesn’t mean that fish
could turn into philosophers by this means—the real issue is the nature of
the variation, the
information problem. Arguments about tautology distract attention from the
real weakness of neo-Darwinism—the source of the new information required.
Given an appropriate source of variation (for example, an abundance of created genetic
information with the capacity for Mendelian recombination), replicating populations
of organisms would be expected to be capable of some adaptation to a given environment,
and this has been demonstrated amply in practice.
Natural selection is also a useful explanatory tool in creationist modelling of
post-Flood radiation with speciation [see
Q&A: Natural Selection].
- ‘Evolution is just a theory.’ What people usually
mean when they say this is ‘Evolution is not proven fact, so it should
not be promoted dogmatically.’ Therefore people should say that.
The problem with using the word ‘theory’ in this case is that scientists
usually use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known
ones such as Einstein’s Theory of Relativity and Newton’s Theory of
Gravity, and lesser-known ones such as the Debye–Hückel Theory of electrolyte
solutions and the Deryagin–Landau/Verwey–Overbeek (DLVO) theory of the
stability of lyophobic sols, etc. It would be better to say that particles-to-people
evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
All the same, the critic doth protest too much. Webster’s Dictionary
(1996) provides the #2 meaning as ‘a proposed explanation whose status is
still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded
as reporting matters of actual fact,’ and this usage is hardly unknown in
the scientific literature. The dictionary further provides ‘6. contemplation
or speculation. 7. guess or conjecture.’ So the critic is simply wrong to
say that it’s a mistake to use theory to mean ‘speculation’,
‘conjecture’ or ‘guess’; and that scientists never
use theory this way in the literature. So the attack is really cheap point-scoring,
but there is still no reason to give critics this diversion. See also Is ‘Evolution’
a ‘Theory’ or ‘Fact’ or Is this just a trivial game of semantics?
(off site).
- ‘There is amazing modern scientific insight in the Bible.’
We should interpret the Bible as the author originally intended, and as the intended
readership would have understood it. Therefore we should be cautious in reading
modern science into passages where the readers would not have seen it. This applies
especially to poetic books like Job and Psalms. For example, Job’s readers
would not have understood Job 38:31 to be teaching anything about gravitational
potential energy of Orion and Pleiades. Rather, the original readers would have
seen it as a poetic illustration of God’s might, i.e. that God, unlike Job,
could create the Pleiades in a tightly-knit cluster which is what it looks like;
while God created Orion as a well spread out constellation, again something well
beyond Job’s ability. Similarly, Job 38:14 is not advanced scientific
insight into the Earth’s rotation, because the earth is not being
compared to the turning seal but to the clay turning from one shape into
another under the seal.
- ‘Laminin: an amazing look at how Jesus is holding each of us together.’
That one protein out of 100,000 is shaped like a cross in formalized diagrams (probably
more like a sword with the side arms not at right angles) is not that surprising,
just ‘by chance’. In any case, Jesus is sustaining our creation from
God the Father’s right hand; He is no longer on the cross,
so the theology is dubious too. Here is
more information on laminin.
- ‘The speed of light has decreased over time’ (c decay).
Although most of the evolutionary counter-arguments have been proven to be fallacious,
there are still a number of problems, many of which were raised by creationists,
which we believe have not been satisfactorily answered. CMI currently believes that
both Dr Russell Humphreys’ and Dr John Hartnett’s cosmologies (both involving
relativistic time dilation) provide viable solutions for the distant starlight problem.
It’s a healthy situation to have multiple working hypotheses at the moment because
there are so many unknowns in astronomy and cosmology. However, neither we, Dr Humphreys
nor Dr Hartnett claim that either of these models are infallible. See How can we see distant stars in a young Universe? from the
The Creation Answers Book.
- ‘There are no transitional forms.’ Since there are
candidates, even though they are highly dubious, it’s better to avoid
possible comebacks by saying instead: ‘While Darwin predicted that the fossil
record would show numerous transitional fossils, even 140 years later, all we have
are a handful of disputable examples.’ See also
Q&A: Fossils.
- ‘Gold chains have been found in coal.’ Several artefacts,
including gold objects, have been documented as having been found within coal, but
in each case the coal is no longer associated with the artefact. The evidence is
therefore strictly anecdotal (e.g. ‘This object was left behind in the fireplace
after a lump of coal was burned’). This does not have the same evidential
value as having a specimen with the coal and the artefact still associated.
- ‘Plate tectonics is fallacious.’ CMI believes that
Dr John Baumgardner’s work on Catastrophic Plate Tectonics provides a good
explanation of continental shifts and the Flood. See
Q&A: Plate Tectonics. However, we recognise that some reputable creationist
scientists disagree with plate tectonics.
- ‘Creationists believe in microevolution but not macroevolution.’
These terms, which focus on ‘small’ v. ‘large’
changes, distract from the key issue of information. That is, particles-to-people
evolution requires changes that increase genetic information (e.g., specifications
for manufacturing nerves, muscle, bone, etc.), but all we observe is sorting
and, overwhelmingly, loss of information. We are hardpressed to find examples
of even ‘micro’ increases in information, although such changes should
be frequent if evolution were true. Conversely, we do observe quite ‘macro’
changes that involve no new information, e.g. when a control gene is switched
on or off. Interestingly, even high profile evolutionists (e.g. Mayr, Ayala) disagree
with the idea that the observed small changes in living things are sufficient to
account for the grand scheme of microbes-to-mankind evolution.
- ‘The Gospel is in the stars.’ This is an interesting
idea, but quite speculative, and many Biblical creationists doubt that it is taught
in Scripture, so we do not recommend using it.
Creation scientists and other specialists of interest
Introduction and disclaimer
Many historians (of many different religious persuasions—including atheistic) have shown that modern science started to flourish only in largely Christian Europe. These historians point out that the basis of modern science depends on the assumption that the universe was made by a rational creator. An orderly universe makes perfect sense only if it were made by an orderly Creator. But if there is no creator, or if Zeus and his gang were in charge, why should there be any order at all? So, not only is a strong Christian belief not an obstacle to science, such a belief was its very foundation. (See also a refutation of the argument Newton was a creationist only because there was no alternative?)
However, after the rise of old-age beliefs, some scientists caved in and ‘re-interpreted’ the Bible to fit them. For example, some claimed that the days in Genesis 1 were really ages, and that Noah’s Flood was one of many catastrophes. For proof that such ‘re-interpretations’ are fallacious, see Q&A Genesis and Noah’s Flood Covered the Whole Earth.
They may have meant well, but their faulty model was an easy target for Darwin. For example, Darwin pointed out that the fashionable theory—that each species had been independently created in their current location—made little sense of his observations that island species were often similar to those of the nearest continent. But his observations fit perfectly with the true biblical view that there was a global Flood, and animals migrated from Ararat to the islands via the neighbouring mainland.
This should be a lesson for those today who teach that Christians should compromise the plain meaning of the Bible to fit with ‘science’. Aside from placing fallible human opinion as an authority above the infallible Word of God, it just doesn’t work and paves the way for more departure from Scripture.
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