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Long life or eternal life?

If the Cross gives eternal life, then there was biological change at the Fall

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The fossil record, which records death, disease, suffering and violence, could not have preceded Adam.

Published: 29 July 2014 (GMT+10)

Imagine a Christian (let’s call him ‘Annas’) living in about the year AD 40. He knows that Jesus died on the Cross for his sins, but he doesn’t have the New Testament to tell him what it means, so what can he work out from the bare facts?

The first thing he can deduce is that the penalty for sin involves physical death. If the penalty for sin were spiritual death only, then why was Christ’s physical death required to pay for it? The Cross would seem like an exercise in masochism in such a scenario.

The second thing he can deduce is that a death caused by sin does not mean that there were no natural means involved. Jesus died by crucifixion, the same as thousands of other Jews. That means that sin stands behind and causes the physical means, rather than being a separate means by itself.

But does sin stand behind all deaths or only some of them? If sin stands behind only some deaths, then in such cases, the effect of sin is like the effect of an executioner. An execution brings forward what is inevitable in any case. The person’s death was coming anyway.

Despite the fact that the Cross clearly cut short Jesus’ life, Annas can be sure the ‘executioner’ model of sin is wrong. On the executioner model, the Cross in overcoming sin can no more be the basis of eternal life than polio vaccine can be, since it only deals with one source of death. It could only be the source of longer life. It follows then that the Cross can’t impart eternal life unless all mechanisms by which death can come have been dealt with.

The Cross can’t impart eternal life unless all mechanisms by which death can come have been dealt with.

So the third thing he can deduce is that sin stands behind all physical, human death. From this it follows that if there were no sin, there would be no physical, human death.

Now if Annas goes to the start of the Torah1 to see what it says, the example of Adam reinforces the same notion. Adam died about 930 years after he sinned, and lived the fourth longest recorded life span. That does not look like premature death. (See Note 1)

If he bumped into Paul, he would work out that Paul thought exactly the same way. He believed that sin was behind all death. Paul is very clear in Romans 5:12 where he says that (human, physical) death entered the world through sin. Also, in 1 Corinthians 15:21 Paul says (human, physical) death came through a man (Adam).

So the Cross, the Old Testament, and the New Testament all declare that sin stands behind all human death. This is the same thing as saying that Adam was able not to die if he didn’t sin. We could shake Adam’s hand today if he hadn’t sinned. This is known as conditional immortality.

The trouble with conditional immortality is that it is biologically impossible in today’s world. Telomeres are a biological mechanism that ensures all people die. They are a piece of DNA that sits on the end of the chromosomes, and they limit the number of times a cell can reproduce. They shorten when they are reproduced, and when they are too short, your cells cannot multiply anymore. So your organs can no longer rejuvenate themselves, and so even if you have top nutrition and manage to avoid all infection and accidents, you still die as your organs wear out.

Telomeres don’t care if you sin or not. You die anyway.

Telomeres don’t care if you sin or not. You die anyway. They are a guarantee of human death, programmed into our DNA. So following our line of reasoning to this point, it is clear that this telomeric ‘programmed death’ must also be caused by sin. It must be the result of a biological change at the Fall.

But in reality the issue involves much more than telomeres. What about cancer, heart attacks, and lethal strokes? What do you do with venomous snakes? Or man-eating tigers, sharks and the like? Clearly the change from conditional immortality to our current mortality involves many biological changes in the created order to have taken place, and not just in the human realm.

We should remember that Christians in general, including many who assume death has been around for millions of years, and human death for hundreds of thousands of those, think that biological change on this level is not only possible, it is certain. (There will be no death in the new heavens and the new earth.)

But if there were such major biological changes at the Fall, it would mean that the fossil record, which records death, disease, suffering and violence on a grand scale, could not have preceded Adam. So if the fossils are after Adam, then since no-one believes that he was created millions of years ago, they could not be millions of years old.

The Bible unavoidably makes biological assertions, even biologically ‘impossible’ ones such as someone rising from the dead.

To avoid having to accept that there were such major biological changes at the Fall, some long-age Christians want to invoke God’s foreknowledge. Because God knew Adam would sin before he died of sin’s consequences, they say, He didn’t need to change biology. On this version, God spent eons preparing the world as a bed of thorns for people because he knew they would sin. But it is incorrect, because, among other things (see Note 2), it means God unjustly punished Adam when he was still innocent.

Philosophy can be used to drive theology past God’s revelation—for example, by asking questions which revelation does not answer. Has that happened here? Are we right when we say that since the Cross offers eternal life, sin is the cause of all death, and that if sin is the cause of all death, then biological change is required? True, the Scriptures are not a science (biology) textbook. But the Bible unavoidably makes biological assertions, even biologically ‘impossible’ ones such as someone rising from the dead.

So, if philosophy is not permitted to outrun revelation, there must be some textual support for the proposition that biology changed at the Fall. Indeed there is:

  1. The Curse is replete with biological change: death, labour pains, thorns and thistles all come from the Fall.
  2. Genesis 1:30 says that creatures before the Fall were all herbivores, but we know that is not the case now. And, accordingly, allusions to animals in association with the future restoration of creation, (in which both death and the Genesis Curse will be no more—Revelation 21:4, 22:3), point away from carnivory, toward Edenic visions of universal herbivory and peace.
  3. Genesis 1 tells us the creation was originally good, good, very good, but that it is now groaning under a bondage to decay/corruption (Romans 8:18–21).

Note that naturalistic biologists have no trouble with the concept of major biological change over time, and with whole new amazing abilities such as sonar and consciousness appearing and disappearing. But the idea that conditional immortality is historical reality is repugnant to them, because death is central to their story of life. Whereas death is an intruder on the Bible’s story of life. In fact, Paul calls it “the last enemy” to be defeated in God’s restorative plan (1 Corinthians 15:26).

So we have a trilemma in preaching how the Cross deals with death. Either we have no Cross (sin only causes spiritual death), no eternal life (sin only causes some death), or no respectability in the eyes of the world (sin caused a change in biology). I recommend choosing the last option because, uncomfortably, 1 Corinthians 1 is still true when it says that the Cross is foolishness to unsaved wisdom.

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Dating methods that old-earth compromisers accept place human death before Adam’s Fall.

NOTES

Note 1.

In those chapters, God warns Adam that if he eats of the forbidden fruit, he will certainly die. (“Dying, you shall surely die.”) When he pronounces judgment on him, he declares that he will die (return to the dust), and when Adam is 930 years old, he dies.

This can’t be interpreted as God merely cutting short his otherwise mortal life because of sin because:

  1. The text does not say early death when it gives the threat, the judgment and the execution. It says death.
  2. A death threat to be carried out in 930 years is hollow if death is going to happen anyway from other causes.
  3. It didn’t happen. Adam lived the third longest life recorded in Scripture, and almost all of it after the Fall, after God had judged him for eating the forbidden fruit. If God meant shortened life as the penalty from sin, then surely Adam would have died shortly after the judgment? To do otherwise is to invite misunderstanding.
  4. It is not what Annas would have observed around him. He would have seen that Romans were just as likely to outlive their three score years plus ten as the Jews, despite a lifetime of idolatry.
  5. If sin is only one cause of death, and stands behind the physical means, Annas doesn’t have any way to tell if a particular death is caused by sin or not.
  6. Shorter is a comparative. But there is no way of knowing the benchmark, so we can’t say how much shorter. The term is practically content-free. Annas can’t prioritize based on a shorter life because he doesn’t know if the shortening is measured in milliseconds, or decades.

Note 2

There are several problems with the foreknowledge position. See The ‘problem’ of evil and the supremacy of Scripture. Consider also:

  1. It means Adam was being punished when he was innocent.
  2. Did God create Adam with a sin nature?
  3. The Apostle Peter preached about the coming restoration of all things (Acts 3:21), and notes that it is a theme of Old Testament promises. What on earth are we going to be restored to? A world full of cancer, carnivory, violence and suffering?
  4. It says that Adam’s death was always inevitable. If death is inevitable, how can it be the result of sin? All agree that the natural causes of death are ethically blind and often work across species (eg bird flu). On a long-age view, they have been at work killing for millions of years before Adam came. All agree that eating a piece of fruit does not trigger death on today’s biology. To say that these natural killers are caused by a later event which never is observed to trigger them is tenuous at best. In short, if there had been millions of years of death across the entire biosphere, could there be any stronger demonstration that sin is not the cause of death than this?
  5. This is not the way the Bible does theology. Theology is built on history. If the history is bunk, the theology is worse (I Corinthians 15). If history says death was inevitable before sin entered the world, then we should not believe any theology that says that it wasn’t.

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Lance R., Australia, 29 July 2014

I have a question. The quote "Dying, you shall surely die", is that from Genesis 2:17? And, if so, what is the translation.

Thank you for your careful analysis.

Warren Nunn responds

A literal translation of the Hebrew of Genesis 2:17 is, ‘in the day you eat thereof, dying you shall die’. For more see: http://creation.com/why-did-god-impose-the-death-penalty-for-sin

Troy M., United States, 29 July 2014

I believe that if Adam, Eve and their offspring, created in the image of God, had not eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge, they would be alive today. I believe the tree fruit was poisonous, causing DNA damage and ultimately death. That DNA is passed to offspring via the male, which is why Jesus needed to be born of a virgin, without the seed of Adam, i.e. male DNA. I believe if Jesus had not been crucified, He would still be on the earth today. Since He was not born with the flawed DNA, therefore eternal life, only He could voluntarily give His life for all.

I have often wondered about the presence of death before they ate the fruit. Did every living cell have eternal life prior to the fall, e.g. plants, bacteria, animals, or just human kind? If all cells had eternal life and Adam had never seen death, what would a death warning mean?

David B., United States, 29 July 2014

This is an excellent article. The problem that most people seem to have nowadays, is that they were not taught anything other than evolution when they were young. Because of this they cannot imagine anything or anywhere, where death is not the norm. I remember asking my pastor, when I was very young, If evolution is true, then death was in the world before Adam was created, and if that is the case then Adam was already scheduled to die somewhere in the future. This being the case, then there is no need to believe in GOD, because HE lied about everything in the beginning. My pastor stated that you can't contradict science.

That was a stupid answer !!!

I started to believe that the whole idea of a "god" was dumb and it was designed to help the weak minded cope with a world full of problems.

However; after becoming certified and dealing with bacteria on an almost daily basis, I began to see that some of the "facts" about bacteria were unfounded. If the "facts" were not true then the "facts" were not facts, they were lies!!

Science never deals with theories unless true Scientific data points in that direction. Then it is still called a theory until it can be proven beyond any possibility of doubt, THAT IS SCIENCE !!

Using science, with ANY discovery that has ever been or likely will ever be, all things point to a Creator, and upon further exploration, all SCIENTIFIC data screams the existence of THE GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Caution: be sure to look for the word of "GOD". The original text given to us by GOD, was written correctly. Today, however; some "bibles" are not printed correctly. Check John 3:16 in various bibles and you will see the difference. And I am talking about the newer editions. Beware. the falling away is already happening.

J Luther B., United States, 29 July 2014

I have one problem with the article, but I am always open to discussion.

I think that if a person never sinned, then they would never die. It is impossible for anyone to never sin, though. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23. "Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins." Ecclesiastes 7:20.

The exception is Jesus Christ. He was fully man and yet knew no sin. "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Corinthians 5:21

If the Cross only cut "cut short" Jesus' life, then how can His death mean anything? If it hadn't been for the Cross He would have died of old age, if not some accident or disease.

But the Cross didn't actually kill Jesus. "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord." John 10:18(a). He CHOSE to die as an act of His will. Or you could say that sin killed Him, because He took that sin upon himself. Either way, He wouldn't have died if He hadn't decided to do so, in spite of what the telomeres had to say about it.

Dean M., United States, 30 July 2014

Actually, the literal translation at the end of Gen 2:17 is "you shall die die," which is best translated you shall die by death (WYC) or die dying (YLT). A person dying of terminal Cancer does not die in a few seconds, or even a few minutes. We are all dying.

As for ‘Annas’, while I understand the article is directed to a non-Jewish culture, Annas would have (as a Jew) known that Jesus was "the Lamb of God" whose death on the cross was the sacrifice for our sins (the ultimate sacrifice). The first Sacrifice (acknowledged by the ancient Rabbis et al.) was when God made coats of skin for Adam and Eve: it is even viewed as teaching Adam and Eve about the sacrificial blood atonement for sin (imagine how shocked and horrified they must have been to see the results of their sin).

As for Jesus' death on the cross, he bore the penalty of our sins during the three hours of darkness (when He said My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me--a Remez citing Ps 22). His physical suffering seen on the cross was not even the tip of an iceberg of the suffering he endured (as he who knew no sin became sin for us, and was judged for it).

David M., Australia, 30 July 2014

Thanks Peter for tackling a very interesting and important subject, delineating the role of the different types of death and raising the issue of why Jesus had to die physically on the cross as well as be forsaken by his Father (and most others).

I wonder if there is some symmetry between the time spans involved in the effects of sin and the effects of the cross. That is, Adam & Eve died spiritually (knew they were naked, cast out of the garden) the very day they sinned but it took 930 years for Adam to die physically (though I guess Abel died much sooner). Likewise, as soon as we put our faith in Christ we are raised to new spiritual life, but so far it is taking nearly 2000 years for physical death to be abolished.

George J., Canada, 30 July 2014

In the discussion the author has left out two passages that I believe are crucial to this discussion; namely,

“In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.”, and “And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life. ”

Now , if the premise of the discussion is valid, why would God say that Adam must not be allowed to eat from the tree of life and live forever? Why was it necessary for Adam to be kept from the garden? If the biological change causing death occurred at the fall, why was it necessary to keep Adam from the tree of life? Is it not rather possible that the telomeres and all the other things that may give rise to death were part of man’s original make up and that the tree of life was the sustaining force that held them in abeyance? And more importantly that the optimum fellowship that God desired with Adam was that he make a positive, active choice to choose the other tree in the middle of the garden and actively reject the tree he did choose? Ultimately, if a biological change that caused death arose at the fall, why bother with the cherubim and the flaming sword?

And the statement, “All agree that eating a piece of fruit does not trigger death on today’s biology.”? Not “all” agree. Ever tried mistletoe berries or nightshade berries?;a couple of examples that show that statement is not true

Michael G., United States, 30 July 2014

Adam and Eve had to leave the Garden because of the access to the Tree of Life. Does this not imply that they were not created immortal at all?

Richard G., United Kingdom, 8 August 2014

I've often wondered why Adam's disobedience has brought such terrible consequences upon the human race: the condemnation of sin & death, for what seems a relatively minor act?

And again, Why was it necessary for Jesus to die for our sins in order to provide Everlasting Life to those who believe in Him?

From a scientific perspective, we understand such concepts as Cause & Effect, Equal & Opposite reactions, E=MC2; and we are able to develop the sciences in mathematics, physics, astronomy, chemistry, biology to help us interpret what we see. We live in universe that is a complex, highly organised & intelligible to us (Ps 8:1-9)

As Christians, we believe in an the existence of a Supernatural God, who is both a Loving Heavenly Father and Supreme & Sovereign Authority over the universe and everything existing in it (Rev 4:11).

Ethically we have a common sense of moral outrage at atrocious acts, or when an injustice has been done. We all sorrow at the loss of life, particularly if it is tragically cut short - as if, innately, we understand that death is an intrusion on our existence (Gen 2:15-17).

However, when we put all these factors together (Ecc 7:29) it seems logical to conclude that life is pretty special, delicate and finely balanced (Ps 139:13-16). In fact it’s a God-given Gift . (Rom 6:23; Deut 30:19-20; Deut 32:45-47).

Scientifically, we understand that there are Tolerances & Errors that are critical for all system to succeed. However, when it comes to our life on this planet, we somehow excuse ourselves from that kind of scrutiny.

The miracle is that God has not left us in a state of condemnation but has provide Jesus, Our Passover (1 Cor 5:7) to be a bridge from a dying world to a New Creation (Jn 3:16-20; 2 Cor 5:17; Lk 21:32-33; Is 40:6-8; Rev 3:14

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