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Feedback 2011
Soldiers and scoffers
Published: 21 June 2011(GMT+10)
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This week’s correspondence illustrates some of the reasons why CMI exists:
to give aid to believers in the war of ideas where they are, and to stand as a public
challenge to scoffers. CMI’s Dr Don
Batten and Dr Tas Walker
respond.
Neville L. from Australia writes:
I am writing for your assistance, please. Maybe Don Batten or someone else (if
Don is away) might be able to help.
In recent issues of our free weekly paper The Echo, there have been letters
denigrating the Bible and promoting evolution. One writer claimed that “evolution
is fact (not a belief), verifiable by science”. I submitted a letter (reproduced
below) and it has been published in the recent issue of The Echo. On reflection,
I may have left myself open in my second last paragraph where I write that “many
leading scientists admit the inadequacies of evolutionary explanations, but, being
unwilling to consider the alternative creationist explanation, adhere stubbornly
to what is a bankrupt theory of the nineteenth century.” In case I am challenged
over this statement, would you be able to supply me with 5 or 6 scientists who have
admitted this (together with what 2 or 3 of them said). I would appreciate having
this on hand by 19th February when I might be called upon to reply.
We hope that we have helped equip enough local folk to take up the battle (using
the resources of our website, for example).
Here is what was published in The Echo:
“Despite recent claims in the Echo that evolution is a scientific fact, it
remains a belief that is not verifiable by science.
“There are a number of uses of the word “evolution”: (1) cosmic
evolution (origin of time, space, matter); (2) chemical evolution (origin of higher
elements from hydrogen); (3) stellar and planetary evolution (origin of stars and
planets); (4) organic evolution (origin of life); (5) macro evolution (changing
from one basic kind to another); (6) micro evolution (variations within kinds).
The sixth is the only one that can be demonstrated in the laboratory. It is a great
leap of faith to claim that the sixth implies the other five!
“Scientists have been unable to change one basic kind to another. An observable
law of science is that like begets like (dogs produce dogs). If macro evolution
were a reality, there ought to be an abundance of intermediate, hard-to-identify
fossils. Further, another observable law is that life begets life. This runs contrary
to organic evolution whose basis is that from non-life we obtain life.
“Big Bang proponents claim that the universe burst into something from a state
of virtual nothingness (about the size of a dot on a page), but are unable to explain
from where the material packed into that dot originated.
“Take the law of conservation of angular momentum (pieces that break from
a spinning object spin in the same direction). If the universe began (as claimed)
by a spinning dot, why do at least 2 planets spin backwards and why do Jupiter,
Saturn and Neptune have moons orbiting in both directions?
“The second law of thermodynamics states that nothing gets better by itself
unless energy is added. But the universe is a closed system and so must get more
disorganised unless you acknowledge the intervention of a Designer and Sustainer
(which appears unpalatable to some readers).
“Indeed many leading scientists admit the inadequacies of evolutionary explanations,
but, being unwilling to consider the alternative creationist explanation, adhere
stubbornly to what is a bankrupt theory of the nineteenth century.
“True science is concerned with the observable. What happened in the past
is a matter of conjecture. The belief system you choose needs also to address the
big questions: where did you come from, why are you here, where are you going, how
do you tell right from wrong, etc. It is my belief that the evolutionary theory
is inadequate also in this respect.
Neville L.”
Thank you for your help.
Neville L.
Don Batten responds:
Hello Neville,
I’m glad you are making the effort with The Echo. I was made aware
of the scuttlebutt being published therein, but we just don’t have time to
spend on local newspaper debates. We hope that we have helped equip enough local
folk to take up the battle (using the resources of our website, for example).
Here are some high-profile admissions of "the inadequacies of evolutionary explanations" all the while being unwilling to contemplate the creation alternative:
These also might be useful:
I hope these help. They are all from the quotes
page of our website.
It might also be useful to check out the articles on Antony Flew on our website
also. He was the world’s most famous atheist but realized that evolution could
not explain the intricate complexities being revealed by molecular biology today
and so abandoned atheism. He unfortunately did not become a Christian before his
death (as far as we know). See, for example, also Would Darwin be a Darwinist today?
Every blessing,
Don Batten
R.W. from the United States writes in response to
What makes us human:
“Some dismiss the story of Adam and Eve as myth. But the scientific evidence
supports the biblical account, not the idea that we are related to apes (p. 46).”
Tell me something, does Tas keep a straight face when he tells a lie like this or
does he roll on the floor laughing when he does so? This man has to be one of the
biggest ‘liars for god’ in today’s world. Give the liar my regards.
R.W.
No, I don’t laugh. Usually I feel sad when I encounter such emails from people
like yourself.
Tas Walker responds;
Hi R.W.,
Thank you for your greetings. I wish you God’s blessings.
No, I don’t laugh. Usually I feel sad when I encounter such emails from people
like you. But I am encouraged to know that scoffers do come to their senses and
turn back to the Lord, which is what I pray for you.
The “(p. 46)” in the editorial refers to an article on p. 46 of the
current Creation magazine that explains how the evidence supports biblical
history. Why not have a read of that article, which is by
Dr Don Batten?
There is a very good DVD on a related topic by Dr Rob Carter entitled
Mitochondrial Eve and the 3 “Daughters of Noah” . In that DVD, geneticist
Rob Carter discusses the latest human genetic data and explores three scenarios:
evolution over millions of years, progressive creation and the biblical history.
He shows that the latest genetic data are consistent with the biblical scenario and not the other two.
I wish you all the best,
Tas Walker
Readers’ commentsJudie S., Australia
Good on ya, Neville!
Excellent letter, good question. Keep it up, I’m praying for you.
(Well after the fact, but God isn’t bounded by time, after all.)
F. G ., United States
Scoffers like this resort to mockery and name-calling quite a bit, and don’t do much to try to prove their position. Apparently they assume that evolution has already been proven, and thus doesn’t need to be proven again. The problem, of course, is that it hasn’t been. |
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