More ‘dino’ sightings in Papua New Guinea
Published: 23 August 2012 (GMT+10)
Following on from his 2008 article Theropod and sauropod dinosaurs sighted in PNG?, in January 2012 the author Brian Irwin along with Russell Cook (both Australians) travelled to West New Britain in Papua New Guinea to investigate further reports of animals presumed to be extinct. Here is an account of their conversations with eyewitnesses—local people who claimed to have recently seen dinosaur-like creatures. |

Sauropod sightings in the south of West New Britain
1. Ambungi Island Sightings
The inhabitants of Ambungi Island1 and the surrounding region have observed unusual animals that resemble sauropod dinosaurs since the mid-1990s. Ambungi Island is located about two kilometres south of the south coast of West New Britain, approximately midway between Kandrian and Gasmata. It is only since the 1920s that Ambungi Island has been populated.
Swimming with a sauropod?
A local man named Alphones Likky (interviewed on 15th January 2012—see Figure 2) claimed to have seen a sauropod-like creature in 1995 while he was spearfishing on the reef on the south side (unpopulated) of Ambungi Island.

Alphones was facing south at the bottom of the reef stalking fish when, he says, he heard the sound of something crashing into the coral behind him. When Alphones turned around he was startled to see a large animal at close range, a distance of approximately five metres (c. 15 feet), fully submersed in the water. He says it moved slowly past from left to right and entered the left of two underwater caves located on the south side of Ambungi Island. (See Figure 3.)

Alphones described the animal as having a long neck and tail and four legs, with the hind legs being longer than the front legs and the feet resembling those of a duck. The length of the animal was estimated to be four metres from the front legs to the end of the tail, with a height of two to three metres. The animal’s skin was stated to be dark brown, the texture of the skin could not be determined. The head of the creature was described as being small and similar to a snake’s head; no teeth were observed and the eye was described as being similar to the eyes of other animals. Dermal frills were observed on the animal’s back and tail, but not on the neck. The creature’s movement was described as being slow, with the tail moving noticeably. The neck of the creature was horizontal for the duration of the sighting, which lasted about 10 seconds. Seeing the creature at such close range and being in the water with it, Alphones was terrified. Wanting to escape with his life from this ordeal, Alphones promptly surfaced to reach his canoe and left the area quickly. He certainly didn’t hang around in hope of getting a glimpse of the creature’s body above the water!



The two underwater caves on the south side of Ambungi Island are separated by a distance of approximately 20 metres. The left cave has a circular entrance and has a height of about 2.5 metres. The right cave has a triangular entrance and also has a height of about 2.5 metres and appears from the outside to be considerably larger than the left cave. Neither cave has been explored because of the unavailability of sophisticated diving and lighting equipment.
A dinosaur in the garden?
In 1999 the second good sighting of one of these creatures occurred, however on this occasion the animal was observed on the land.
Alice Pasington (interviewed on 14th January 2012) was working alone in the garden on the south side of the island when she claims to have had an unusual encounter. From a distance of about 40 metres, Alice observed one of the creatures and estimated the total length to be about three metres. (See artist’s reconstruction in Figure 6.)


The colour of the animal’s skin was reddish-brown and white around the breast area. The texture of the skin appeared smooth and dermal frills were seen only on the tail. The animal moved slowly with its neck nearly vertical and Alice saw it feeding on a plant with a rough-textured leaf (see Figure 7).
Alice then observed the animal turn around and walk to a small cliff, where it dived into the sea. During this time, the creature was followed at a distance and did not seem aware of Alice’s presence. After the animal had left the garden, Alice observed the five-toed footprints in the ground and later showed these footprints to other residents of Ambungi Island. The animal may have entered the garden from the beach on the western side of the island during the night. From the above description, it is possible that it may have been a juvenile specimen of the same type of creature as the other sightings, based on its size, colour, footprint and smooth skin texture.
Sleeping on a rock
In 2007, Jasinta Pitim, another resident of Ambungi Island, observed the profile of a large animal sleeping on a rock on a reef on the south side of Ambungi Island. The animal was described as having a long neck that was curved back near its body, which was dark-brown, with skin described as being like a crocodile, and with dermal frills. Jasinta hurried home and told her husband Joe (interviewed on 14th January 2012), who travelled to the location, where he saw it too. Once the animal heard the sound of people, it moved from the rock back into the sea. Back in 1997 Joe and Jasinta observed a similar animal while travelling from Ambungi Island to Malengo Island in a canoe. From a distance of approximately eight metres the head and neck of the creature were visible for a short period of time.
Similar animals have also been observed on islands close to Ambungi Island.

2. Gasmata sighting
A creature similar to the one(s) observed around Ambungi Island has also been seen once near Gasmata. One afternoon in August 2004, three adults—Fabian Amon (see Figure 1), Simon Patolkit2 (Figure 9) and Margaret Patolkit—along with some children observed a sauropod-like creature on the south side of Dililo Island, an unpopulated island used mainly for farming by the local people from Gasmata.

Simon was interviewed on 13th January 2012 at the location of the sighting and Fabian was interviewed on 18th January 2012. Both of their accounts of the sighting were very similar.
Simon, Margaret and Fabian were diving for fish on the reef on the south side of Dililo Island when they heard an unusual sound in the water and noticed that the fish were scattering. They became somewhat frightened by this incident and left the water for the safety of the land. A short time later, while sitting on some rocks, they observed part of an unknown animal above the water about 40–50 metres away and travelling in an east-west direction parallel to the coast.
The creature had a large body and a neck estimated to be three metres long that was horizontal and close to the water. No tail or legs were visible and the total length of the visible portion of the animal was about eight metres. The head was like a crocodile or lizard and the eye was described as being ‘big’. The colour of the animal was uniform brown and the skin had a rough texture. The animal was described as having a ‘saw’ in the middle of its back, which consisted of 4 or 5 dermal frills. Observation time lasted about one minute during which time the creature moved slowly until it submersed itself fully in the water.

3. Possible theropod sighting in the north of West New Britain
A small theropod-like creature that local people have dubbed ‘Doren’ has been repeatedly observed around Benaule Village3, which is located approximately 25 km east of Kimbe on the north coast of West New Britain. The creature has been seen quite frequently for many years, with a close encounter reported in November 2010.

Pastor Ken-John was sitting on an ‘outhouse’ toilet at the Tabernacle Of Worship church during the day when he observed the profile of the head and upper torso of the ‘Doren’ appear only one metre away, just outside. The head was described as being like that of an aircraft (presumably like the profile of the nose of a jet, such as a 747) and the colour was medium brown. The animal has also been seen on the seashore near the church grounds by local people, where it comes ashore during high tide and travels back to the sea during low tide.

A distinctive footprint of the ‘Doren’, which is described as being about 25cm long, is often seen in the sand by the sea. The left foot of the creature was drawn in the sand by a local person (see Figure 13). During the wet season, the ‘Doren’ travels inland along a creek to a mountain. The ‘Doren’ has been observed eating crabs and digging up vegetables from a garden near the church—apparently looking for worms and other invertebrates to eat, as it doesn’t normally eat the vegetables it unearths.


When walking, the ‘Doren’ uses four legs. However, when running the creature is reported as using rear legs only and as being able to outrun a human. It seems from the descriptions that the ‘Doren’ might be best identified as a Herrerasaurus.4
Concluding remarks
Reports alone are ultimately not enough to conclusively establish the fact that some dinosaurs are still alive today. However, if these are eventually backed up by hard evidence, the finding of living dinosaurs should not be such a surprise to people, considering that some animals and plants that were believed to be extinct for millions of years have been discovered alive. These discoveries include the Coelacanth fish (discovered in 1938) and the Wollemi Pine tree (discovered in 1994). For Christians it should be less surprising still, as the authority of the Bible is a solid basis for believing that humans have lived at the same time as dinosaurs (whether or not some dinosaurs still survive); because Genesis teaches that the heavens, the earth, and everything in them was created in that six-day period about 6000 years ago. The remains of dinosaurs (some of which are still ‘soft and squishy’, with identifiable proteins) would be no older than the Genesis Flood, which occurred about 4,500 years ago.
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- The author acknowledges the help of Paul Pilpilis, one of the owners of Ambungi Island, who checked the accuracy of the text for the Ambungi Island sightings. Return to text.
- With regards to the same witness (Simon Patolkit) cited here as in our earlier article, Simon is reporting the same dinosaur (a sauropod) on the reef at Gasmata for this article and the previous article in 2008. Fabian Amon witnessed the sighting of the sauropod at the same time as Simon Patolkit and we were able to interview Fabian (when Simon was not present) to ensure the information provided by Simon was accurate. Return to text.
- The author acknowledges Tony Puana, a local politician in WNB, who provided the initial information about the theropod-like creature sighted at Benaule Village. Return to text.
- From a scientific illustration in the book: Richardson, H., Dinosaurs and prehistoric life, Dorling Kindersley Ltd, London, UK, 2003. Return to text.
Readers’ comments
One of you said that the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" would be more believable. Care to explain, because I completely disagree with you.
Some of you on here merely screamed out things like "evolution is fact" and said that we don't have brains if we believe that dinosaurs were seen. To those people, how about you read the 8000+ articles on here and see what the Creation side has to say? If you did, you would see that we have HARD EVIDENCE that dinosaurs, if they did go extinct, could not have gone extinct a mere few thousand years ago since we found blood cells and un-fossilized soft tissue in dinosaur bones. You would also see that molecules-to-man evolution and billions of years are not science; they are just-so stories that were deduced from a materialistic, naturalistic, uniformitarian worldview in an attempt to explain the universe without God. They are the "creation myth" of the day.
Those of us who reject molecules-to-man evolution and billions of years DO have a brain. We reject those things not due to ignorance, but because of what we know about them.
Some of you accused us of wishful thinking or believing in fairy tales. I fail to see how dinosaurs and man living together is a "fairy tale" when we have overwhelming historical evidence that they did, such as the numerous cave drawing that pre-date the discovery of dinosaur fossils, as well as the mention in Job?
Don't let all the negative statements discourage you. Your research is only preliminary. When it ultimately results in hard evidence, it will have several positive results.
1. It will be an affirmation for Bible Believers.
2. It will encourage people to question evolutionary assumptions.
3. As creationists you will be taking dinosaurs back for Christ, who made them.
4. It will expose evolutionists interpreted the fossil record wrongly to proclaim they became extinct.
5. It will help bring light to the verses that state ALL the animals got off the ark and dragons lived with man after the flood, including Behemoth with his tail the size of a cedar.
Both side will try to gain from the find. But remember evolutionists will be back pedaling to spin it their way, and creationists will have the stronger argument.
We have found hundreds of "living fossils" which should not be living if evolutionists were right. When there are no fossil representatives of a particular creature in the upper layers of the fossil record, evolutionists ASSUME that they became extinct. When one is found alive evolutionists shrug off such finds as anomalous. Well, I have a question then. How many "living fossils" are we going to have to find before people begin to question evolution? All of them? At least with a dinosaur evolutionists won't be able to sweep it under the rug. Calling it a "living fossil" and feeling OK about it, does not mean it is not damaging to evolution as a philosophy. Ask an evolutionist how he "knows" dinosaurs became extinct. The answer he will readily give you will have to be rescinded once a dinosaur is proven to exist.
Gentlemen, fabulous work and God bless you for your efforts.
My specialty is the modern pterosaur. I explored part of Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, in 2004, and interviewed many eyewitnesses. That was the main emphasis of my first nonfiction cryptozoology book "Searching for Ropens."
I have just finished my third book, in digital format: "Live Pterosaurs in Australia and in Papua New Guinea." There is no other reasonable explanation for the bulk of the eyewitness reports: Pterosaurs still live.
An evil and adulterous generation demands a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
So, it's very much like religion, but it's not Scientific in any way, shape or form.
The moment there is actual, physical, verifiable and most importantly, falsifiable evidence, we can talk. Until then those of us in the field will simply regard you people the way we always have; mild mannered kooks who would rather convince each other with lies, than actually learn the fundamentals of Science.
It is interesting that evolutionists say that a living dinosaur doesn't disprove evolution, but for years they have mocked and mocked creationist who contend for the fact that there is proof that dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans. How come the idea that dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans was always so preposterous to them, but if it is shown that they may still live, they shrug?
It is the same thing with the finding of soft tissue with blood cells from dinosaurs being found, which in no way can be millions of years old, but suddenly it was possible for them to believe that soft tissue with blood cells could be millions of years old, somehow; even though any reasonable thinking person would know this to be impossible. Anything, absolutely anything goes with them, so their theory is not refutable, so therefore is not science, but rather unsubstantiated, stubbornly held religion.
In that event I will live in fear of being burned and eaten by their awesome fire, and of course will hide all my jewels and shiny objects in accordance with the sage guidelines passed down through the generations. I will also lock up my daughter until she is safely married and no longer a virgin, and I advise you all to do the same.
Of course, if Dragons are real, as such an event would clearly prove, then magic and wizards, orcs and fairies, goblins and gremlins can surely not be far behind. So look out, people, lock up your virgins and hide the silver!
Aw, who am I kidding, you're never going to publish this anyway!
Surely you would FIRST set up a fixed camera at the alleged lair of this creature with motion sensors and infra red cameras to get some indisputable evidence before going public ? (a scientific method ) It would not be too difficult to create a hoax using dinosaur replica animatronics (even borrowing one from the CMI museum perhaps) --even film is therefore not proof or data . Jurassic park scenarios are easy to report and 'lost world' plots prepare the public to believe with little reason - bring back some remains or excrement with DNA intact as the least 'data' - fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs together has been quietly dropped as 'proof' after investigation discreditted them and the lesson should be not to cry wolf again.
I am really interested to know - would someone who believes in evolution please post one comment about one thing that proves evolution over creation. This should not be a difficult request, since the evidence is 'overwhelming'. Thanks.
Science has established irrefutable evidence and unanimous agreement on facts about the world we live in and the world in the past. Generally fundamentalist Christians stick their heads in the sand , ignore the evidence, inconvenient facts are thrown away. Fundamentalist Christians say the science is wrong. Your proof?.................................................................................I’m waiting….Oh yes that’s right, the absurd and totally unsupported postulation that the bible is Absolute truth and written by god, anything that contradicts it is lies and untruth. The geological record is wrong, 150 years of evolutionary biology work is wrong, palaeontologists have it wrong, geologist have it wrong, physicists have it wrong. But Moses and all the other bronze age, desert wondering, uneducated barbarians who wrote the bible in between killing and enslaving the godless, is right. I do not understand willful ignorance.
Is it not encouraging that so many 'anti-creationists' are exposing themselves to the truths which CMI so steadfastly presents. One day their eyes (and hearts) may be opened.
What would the creatures expected lifespan be from birth, what would be the gestation period of a female, at waht age does female dino become fertile and for how long.
I am no scientist but I believe you can work out the required population to achieve stability. Having done that, calculate the calorie intake required and in this case it is likely to be enormous. And finally, if one or two come ashore as suggested on an island only 2000m long you would be tripping over sunbathing dinos everywhere!
AM I being a little cynical? Perhaps and nature does admittedly produce oddities such as the ceolacanth and we do know more about space than the depths of our oceans.
E.g. here's what Dr Donald Burge, curator of vertebrate paleontology, College of Eastern Utah Prehistoric Museum, admitted in an interview with Dr Carl Werner, 13 February 2001 (Living Fossils p. 173):
(See also Smith, C., The so-called 'age of dinosaurs', Creation 33(3):35-37, 2011.)
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Jesus is coming soon, and I am sure He will straighten it all out! If evolution is true, there should be millions of 'missing links'.
The Bible declares that "The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. 21 Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts." Revelation 9/20,21 and "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds,[a] fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible." Revelation 16/17 - 21.
Although the unbeliever (the one who refuses to believe, not the person who is just not yet convinced!) will see this as being terrible and coercive, the Bible was given to us to instruct us and to warn us of what will happen if we refuse to listen to God's Word. Sorry, but the Word of God declares this PROPHETICALLY, meaning, this will happen when God has so chosen. Hear, those of you who have ears to hear!
That said, should a large unknown beast be discovered, everyone will say that it survived for bzillions of years, under the fossil radar. You have to wonder why nobody will say that it evolved during those same bzillions of years ... perhaps they don't really believe in evolution?
I am looking at an article “Dinosaurs take Wing” in an issue of the National Geographic, July 1998. Depicted on the cover and throughout the article are artists reconstructions of dino/birds and the detail is very extreme considering the fact that all the artists had to go on were fossils. Was not imagination used in this case as is every other depiction based on evolutionism? Scripture tells us that true faith comes from hearing the Word of God. True faith based on Scripture trumps science every time as Scripture is from the mind of God whereas science is from the minds of men, and very fallible minds at that. Belief in evolution requires faith in a past history based on evidence that has to be interpreted and that interpretation depends on the preconceived ideas of the interpreter. What has been described as proto-feathers on the dino/bird fossil is interpreted as collagen fibres by another. Science has done a great deal to explore and explain the world which God has created. However, when science delves into history, leaning away from what God has clearly told us He did, then there is no room for co-existence for that kind of science and faith based on the Word. Whether this is an Age of Enlightenment depends upon one’s perspective.
When scientist claim that Dinosaurs already extinct, were they observe the entire earth? We only know what lies in front of us in the present, while God knows everything, HE is the CREATOR of all things. So, there must be a possibility that Dinosaur is still exist in this earth. Can't wait to hear more evidences!!!
My hunch is that even if God were to come in the flesh on earth and do miracles in their faces, they would still deny Him to His face. They might even kill Him by hanging Him on a tree or something.
1. DNA contains vast amount of information.
2. There is no known naturalistic mechanism for the ORIGINATION of information.
3. The evolutionist must believe BY FAITH that such a mechanism exists or has existed in the past.
4. It is commonly accepted that believing something BY FAITH is a
religious idea.
5. Therefore, belief in evolution is a religion, not a science.
All evidence tending to support evolution is therefore irrelevant to the conclusion.
But we do know of one mechanism that does originate information. That is the mind of an intelligent being.
I am further surprised how many people are willing to make a decision for their faith and future based on so little evidence. There are many factors to consider concerning creation vs. evolution and the obvious issue is whether or not the account of Genesis is true and therefore is the Bible correct or flawed. It cannot be both ways.
This was alluded to in a couple of the responses. In order to have creatures that have existed since the Flood there should be breeding populations which produce generations of these creatures over these thousands of years. This means there should be nests, eggs, young and juveniles as well as adults of these creatures. As far as we can determine sauropods were terrestrial creatures (which wouldn't limit them to not swimming or spending time in water as per these reports). However it seems as if their nesting habits were land-based (unlike say ichthyosaurs, mosasaurs or plesiosaurs).
Some of these reports should be followed up on.
Here are a few ideas. First would it be possible to give and train the people of these islands digital cameras so they could actually take photos or movies of these creatures. Second, perhaps setting up remote based electronic surveillance systems at places where sightings happened to capture any repeat events. Third, perhaps there needs to be a team of trained researchers who would actually stay on the islands in question for a length of time to thoroughly explore and observe the places of these sightings. If there are nesting sites and actual populations of these creatures a thorough exploration could very likely uncover their existence. I realize these suggestions would be expensive but unlike some of the other responders finding living dinosaurs would be an amazing scientific discovery more in line with Biblical chronology rather the deep time speculations of evolutionism.
And re the commandment to love others, see "You should be feeding the hungry".
Since the original discovery of giant bones and other fossils leading to the skeletal reconstructions of dinasaurs, and the process of carbon dating has been used to determine an approximate age, (in millions of year periods), both atheist and Bible-believing scientists have been unable to date any of these creatures as having existed in the same time period as even the earliest humanoid pre-human creatures, ( there may have been some mammals around that time), and just because the Creationist Museum has dioramas of cavemen riding dinosaurs like Fred Flintstone doesn't mean it's real.
There have been so many strange and unexplainable events during my lifetime that finding a group of living dinosaurs wouldn't shock me all that much, but I doubt that they ever interacted with man other than to hunt each other. So, tell me: HOW exactly would the proof of their existence prove the validity of the Christian faith? Seems like quite a leap in credibility to me. So??
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As they used to say on the old current affairs television programs, "Watch this space ...".
Of those that COULD survive, their survival would hardly indicate an invalidation of evolution. Mammals survived the mass extinctions to give rise to today's rodents and hominids, among others. It wouldn't even indicate a needed shift in the "time line," since all it would mean is that for whatever reason (geographic location? unique adaptation?) that species made it through the cataclysm.
Evolution is well-established and enjoys boatloads of evidential support. You are unlikely to disprove it, nor do you need to—it doesn't invalidate your faith one iota. If you believe, you can believe that somehow, evolution fits into your deity's plan of the Universe. Attempts to disprove evolution should come from a place of science, not a place of religion, just as science should not attempt to invalidate the concept of God.
Get it?
But I must also agree that even producing a live dinosaur and walking it down the street will not change the bulk of athiestic thinking. Paul said it well in Romans 1:18-23. What it can do is help us to help those who are willing to examine the actual evidence and see which worldview best explains the actual evidence.
Dan
If those are artists' renderings based on the descriptions from eye-witness accounts, they are so very detailed that one can only believe the artist used their imagination to fill in details. I am sorry to see a regression in what we have known to have been the Age of Enlightenment. Faith should not replace science but should live along side it. Why can't there be room for both to co-exist? In order to have faith one should not require reinforcements from graphic depictions in articles or even the Bible. Either you believe or you don't.
I'm not surprised that as you're a graphic artist yourself you were drawn to look at the pictures. But I do wholeheartedly advise that it's well worth reading the text as well, especially the captions to the three pictures depicting the dinosaurs. I.e. the captions that begin with the words: "An artist's reconstruction of ...". (Emphasis added.)
Those artistic reconstructions of the dinosaurs were based upon the descriptions given to Brian Irwin by those who claimed to have seen the creatures. We never claimed the dinosaurian depictions were actual photos.
I've seen too much evidence of evolution to dismiss it, but it also does not mean the the Bible is less than legitimate, either. Probably, the 6000 year period refers to from Noah, or perhaps Abraham to the present, as the practice of farming and animal herding is what obsoleted the hunter-gatherer society in favor of villages, towns, and cities. We know beyond doubt that some Egyptian civilization existed well over 6000 years ago, so I take that number to be the life-span of civilization and with it, record keeping and a common set of laws and beliefs (called RELIGION) for each village/city/state/kingdom.
You're wrong about the Bible saying that "it goes from Adam and Eve to farming in the next generation". Adam and Eve were horticulturists first, then agriculturists (i.e. having now to till the soil for field crops) post-Fall. The eyewitness accounts in the Bible do not speak of the long periods of history you claim from non-eyewitness accounts. And secular anthropologists, confronted with evidence that contradicts their evolutionary timeline, are now pulling back from their earlier claims that nomadic hunter-gatherers today are "descended unchanged from the Stone Age" (see The people that forgot time).
First, science is always open to new discoveries and input. The scientific method requires adjustments of theories and explanations to fit facts, not the other way around. Keeping and open mind and discovering the truth is what it's all about.
Second, although scientific theories and evolution point to several catastrophic extinction events that occurred, the extinction events weren't utter and complete -- a lot of things survived, even though dinosaurs didn't. The presence of a living dinosaur would be an opportunity to learn more about these extinction events, and how the species that survived were able to adapt.
//It is intellectually dishonest to think that some very vague eyewitness descriptions from poor people living on an impoverished island counts as evidence for the existence of dinosaurs//
CMI was NOT saying that these reported eyewitness sightings are evidence for living dinosaurs. Did you not see where they clearly said "reports alone are ultimately NOT ENOUGH TO CONCLUSIVELY ESTABLISH the fact that some dinosaurs are still alive today" in their concluding remarks? CMI is very academically honest, so much so that they actually have a section on this site called "Arguments we think creationists should NOT use" where they expose weak or doubtful arguments so that we do not give poor defenses of the Bible.
Plus, you are being very arrogant, condescending, and flat-out fallacious by invoking the people's socioeconomic status in your comment. Just because they are poor people in an impoverished area does NOT automatically rule them out as reliable eyewitnesses. Since when does someone have to be financially well-off in order to be a true witness? This is nothing but snobbery, plain and simple. If a homeless person witnesses a murder, is the judge going to throw out his testimony just because he is poor? Certainly not!
//The locals made some very vague descriptions of 3 meter long reptilian creatures that sound very much like crocodiles and alligators and you use that to come to the extreme conclusion of dinosaurs??//
The article said that it was creatures with a 3 foot long NECK AND HEAD alone was that length, which sounds pretty consistent with a dinosaur to me.
Adam, I challenge you to check out the over 8000 articles on this site with an open mind and an open heart. Many unbelievers have had their eyes opened up to the truth of Scripture through organisations like CMI, and I hope the same for you. God bless!
I don’t think readers should jump on the bandwagon and think this will disprove evolution as Brian concludes “if these are eventually backed up by hard evidence, the finding of living dinosaurs should not be such a surprise to people, considering that some animals and plants that were believed to be extinct for millions of years have been discovered alive.” But like Brian also says the findings will fit much better with Biblical history than evolution. Here’s hoping you go back and find the creature.
Thanks to CMI for bringing a little more truth to the minds of those who continue to refuse our Messiah's sacrifice for them.
Spread the word of Mohammed to all and they shall see the creatures of Allah before them!
A carcass is what is needed to confirm this story beyond all doubt, but personally, I don't think anything will come out of the jungles of this corner of the world except a few people whose story is based on the worn-out cliche of "the big one that got away."
Please buy 'Untold Secrets of Planet Earth: Dire Dragons' $39 from Creation Ministries and convince yourself. You will not be disappointed!
If only that were the case, but if they were to find a T-Rex tomorrow I doubt it would change anything. It would be hailed by secular scientists as one of the greatest 'living fossils' ever found.
The spiritually blind will do anything to side step the possibility of a Creator, but as we know they are without excuse. (Romans 1:20)
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