Floating forest hypothesis fails to explain later and larger coal beds


Recently, there have been two papers that have been critical of the floating forest hypothesis. The first paper demonstrated that there are several geological problems that cannot be resolved with a pre-Flood floating forest biome.1 Some of these problems included:

Figure 1. Map of the coal beds in the USA by age. Note the coals in the Western USA are primarily found within Cretaceous and Paleogene Tertiary rocks. The Pennsylvanian (upper Carboniferous) coals in Eastern USA are thin and discontinuous. The map merely outlines the extent of all coal beds, not individual beds. (After USGS map16)
  1. the lack of hydrological support for a sustainable fresh water lens capable of supporting the biome
  2. the lack of a viable explanation for the timing of the lycopod coal beds, as most occur only in upper Carboniferous layers
  3. the lack of a reasonable model to explain the deposition of three complete megasequence cycles in North America prior to the beaching of the claimed floating forests, and
  4. the lack of any evidence of a floating forest biome in rocks deposited during the closing of the proto-Atlantic Ocean, which was presumably consumed during the formation of Pangaea.1

The second paper identified an in situ site in Scotland that demonstrated pre-Flood lycopod trees were rooted in soil and not floating atop the ocean.2 The Glasgow site contains 10 lycopod stump casts that are all rooted in the same horizon and are equidistantly spaced in growth position. Each of the lycopod trunks exhibits a common southwesterly direction of deformation, identical to the paleocurrent direction of the ripples in the encasing sandstone. However, the lycopod tree roots do not show this directional deformation. The roots also visibly penetrate downward into the mudstone below.3 These two observations indicate that the roots must have been embedded in the underlying horizon prior to the deformation of the trunks.2 In addition, this paper demonstrated that living lycopod trees were not as hollow as many have claimed.2 This paper concluded by suggesting we drop the floating forest hypothesis altogether.

Lycopod fossils uncommon in Cretaceous and Paleogene coal seams

Most Flood geologists are in favour of an allochthonous origin for coal, resulting from transport of vegetation by the high energy of the Flood. Creation scientists point to the tree mat that formed on Spirit Lake from the eruption of Mt St Helens in 1980 as verification of this process. Allochthonous coal is not the issue that is being criticized. The aforementioned papers only question the viability of a pre-Flood floating forest biome, and question the presumption that this environment covered much of the pre-Flood ocean surface. As these papers demonstrated, there is clearly insufficient evidence to support this hypothesis.1,2 Unfortunately, this issue is sometimes ‘muddied’ in creationist literature because the term ‘allochthonous coal’ is sometimes used interchangeably with the floating forest hypothesis.4 However, these terms are not by any means synonymous. Indeed, the origin of Flood-transported vegetation, similar to the allochthonous log mat observed at Spirit Lake, is not the same as the pre-Flood floating forest biome.5

There is another, often overlooked, issue where the floating forest hypothesis fails to provide adequate explanation. Lycopod-rich coal beds are confined primarily to upper Carboniferous rock layers.1 Coal deposits found in later Flood rocks show steadily decreasing numbers of lycopod trees and more and more conifers and even many angiosperms. In fact, the thickest and most extensive coals in the USA are from Cretaceous and Paleogene rock layers and are almost exclusively composed of conifer-dominant plants, like the metasequoia, and very few if any lycopods.6

Most of the coals in the USA west of Kansas, Nebraska, and South Dakota are found within Cretaceous and/or Paleogene rock layers and contain few, if any, lycopod tree remnants (figure 1).7 In contrast, the coal beds in Eastern USA, which are composed primarily of lycopod trees, are found almost exclusively within Carboniferous rock layers (figure 1). These include the Pennsylvanian (upper Carboniferous) coals in Illinois, Michigan, and the Appalachian region. The Carboniferous coal beds in Eastern USA are usually 3.0 m or less in thickness. Whereas, the non-lycopod-rich coal beds in the Colorado Plateau and Northern Rockies usually exceed 3.0 m, especially in the Powder River Basin of Wyoming where beds are often thicker than 15 m over significant areal distances.8

Figure 2. Map showing the outline of the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and Montana, USA (after Luppens et al.9)

Indeed, the Powder River Basin (PRB) coals, which are all within Paleogene system rock layers, contain the largest reserves of low-sulfur subbituminous coal in the world (figure 2).9 Roughly 42% of the present coal production in the USA comes from the Powder River Basin.9 At least six or more coal beds in the PRB exceed 30 m in thickness and some individual beds have been shown to extend for over 120 km.10 Some of these coal beds can exceed 70 m thick in places, such as the Big George coal layer.9 The USGS has estimated that the total in-place coal resources of the PRB are approximately 971 billion tonnes, with just ten individual beds making up about 80% of that value.9,11 The vast majority of the PRB coals are found in Cenozoic rocks such as the Tongue River Member of the Paleocene Fort Union Formation.9,12 These coals contain virtually no lycopod trees and are instead derived from metasequoia trees and other semitropical rooted plants.6

The massive extent and volume of Cenozoic coal beds is not exclusive to the USA. Cenozoic coal beds in South America (SA) are also the thickest and most extensive across that continent too.13 It is estimated that the Cenozoic coal beds alone make up about one-half of all coal in SA, and the tonnage is estimated to be greater than any other geologic system or combination of systems.13

Floating forest hypothesis cannot explain coal

One of the primary purposes of the floating forest hypothesis is to try and explain the coal beds found in Carboniferous rocks globally.4,5 However, recent research has demonstrated that the floating forest model fails to explain the origin of these thinner Carboniferous coals.1,2 To make matters worse, the advocates of the floating forest hypothesis have made no attempt to account for the thickest and most extensive coals in the world. Coals found in Cretaceous and Paleogene rocks globally have been largely ignored. Creation scientists should not dogmatically hold on to a hypothesis that cannot adequately explain even the smallest subset of coal deposits,1,2 let alone later and thicker coal beds.8,10 An acceptable Flood-based coal model should provide an explanation for all coals.

New Flood model for coal

Recently, a new model for allochthonous coal formation has begun to be developed.1 This new model harkens back to, and is not too dissimilar from, the concepts of the early pioneers in creation science.14,15 Acccording to this model, forests of lycopod trees apparently fringed the lowest elevation levels of the pre-Flood continent(s).1 As the water levels rose during the Flood (Genesis 7:17–21), these trees were likely torn loose and deposited en masse, becoming coal within the Carboniferous rock layers.1 A few lycopod forests, like the site in Glasgow, Scotland, were merely sheared off, transporting the tree trunks while leaving the rooted stumps in place.2 Later, as the Floodwaters increased in height, trees like the metasequoia that grew at higher elevations were torn loose, transported, and deposited as allochthonous coal beds in the later Flood rocks of the Cretaceous and Paleogene systems. These later deposits became the thick coal beds in the Powder River Basin of Wyoming and Montana, USA.

References and notes

  1. Clarey, T.L., Examining the floating forest hypothesis: a geological perspective, J. Creation 29(3):50–55, 2015. Return to text.
  2. Clarey, T.L. and Tomkins, J.P., An investigation into an in situ lycopod forest site and structural anatomy invalidates the floating forest hypothesis, Creation Research Society Quarterly 53(2):110–122, 2016. Return to text.
  3. Mudstone is merely a descriptive term; it is not necessarily a Flood deposit. Clay-rich layers buried in Flood sediments likely lithified into mudstone. Return to text.
  4. Austin, S.A. and Sanders, R.W., Floating mat model for the origin of coal is supported by new evidence from plant paleoecology, J. Creation Theology and Science Series C: Earth Sciences 6:1, 2016. Return to text.
  5. Wise, K.P., The pre-Flood floating forest: a study in paleontological pattern recognition; in: Ivey, R.L. (Ed.), Proceedings of the Fifth International Conference on Creationism, Creation Science Fellowship, Pittsburgh, PA, pp. 371–381, 2003. Return to text.
  6. Carroll, C., Wyoming’s coal geology, wsgs.wyo.gov/energy/coal-geology, accessed 12 May 2017. Return to text.
  7. Tully, J., Geologic Age of Coals of the United States, U.S. Geological Survey Open File Report 96–92, USGS, 1996, pubs.usgs.gov/of/1996/of96-092/other_files/us_coal.pdf. Return to text.
  8. Luppens, J.A., Rohrbacher, T.J., Osmonson, L.M., and Carter, M.D., Coal resource availability, recoverability, and economic evaluations in the United States—A Summary; in: Pierce, B.S. and Dennen, K.O. (Eds.), The National Coal Resource Assessment Overview, U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1625-F, 2009, pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1625f/downloads/ChapterD.pdf. Return to text.
  9. Luppens J.A., Scott, D.C., Osmonson, L.M., Haacke, J.E., and Pierce, P.E., Assessment of coal geology, resources, and reserve base in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and Montana, Fact Sheet 2012-3143, USGS, 2013, pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2012/3143/fs-2012-3143.pdf. Return to text.
  10. Scott, D.C., Haacke, J.E., Osmonson, L.M., Luppens J.A., Pierce, P.E., and Rohrbacher, T.J., Assessment of coal resources, and reserves in the Northern Wyoming Powder River Basin, Open File Report 2010-1294, USGS, 2010, pubs.usgs.gov/of/2010/1294/pdf/OF10-1294.pdf. Return to text.
  11. In fact, the USA has 22.1% of the total proved coal reserves in the world (252 billion tonnes), whereas all of Europe (excluding the Russian Federation) has 14.2%, according to BP Statistical Review of World Energy June 2017. If the Russian Federation is included, the European total goes up to 28.3%. Return to text.
  12. Interestingly, Germany, one of the largest coal producers in Europe, has approximately 65% of its coal reserves in Cenozoic rocks, largely devoid of lycopod trees. These data taken from Open University Course S278: Earth’s physical resources: origin, use and environmental impact, 2006. Return to text.
  13. Weaver, J.N. and Wood, Jr, J.W., Coal map of South America, US Department of the Interior, USGS, Coal Investigations Map C-145, 1994. Return to text.
  14. Whitcomb, J.C. and Morris, H.M., The Genesis Flood: The Biblical Record and its Scientific Implications, The Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia, PA, 1961. Return to text.
  15. Clark, H.W., Fossils, Flood, and Fire, Outdoor Pictures, Escondido, CA, 1968. Return to text.
  16. USGS map, ems.psu.edu/~pisupati/ACSOutreach/Coal2.html, accessed 15 May 2017. Return to text.

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Readers’ comments

Seth K.
I really appreciate that creation scientists are unafraid to publicly point out problems in their own theories. Also, I hope some day more "animated" or CGI films can be made that show the best current theories on what the pre-flood earth looked like and what happened during the flood, both above and below water, the formations of the mountain ranges, the splitting of the continents, and the periods after the flood, like the volcanoes, the ice age, etc. A full-length feature with narration. I'd buy it!
Andrew P.
Hello. I have some friendly concern about how you present this. I believe that there are answers to the four ‘unanswerable’ questions at the beginning of the article.
1. The lack of hydrological support for a fresh water lens.
The biome was likely created by God with an already sustained fresh water lens. Also, in your other article, you base this on the fact that there was no rain in the preflood world. However, there is no biblical evidence of this, and certainly geological evidence against it.
2. and 3. Timing of coal beds and deposition of previous megasequences.
The timing of the beds is due to the fact that the forests were ‘beached’ on previously deposited layers and so the conditions for coal formation were favorable. Also, some of the plants from the forest had already been deposited. In this theory, most Paleozoic plants from the Ordovician on were from the floating forest, broken up from the outside in.
4. No coal during closing of Proto Atlantic Ocean.
As you yourself say in your articles about preflood geography, the preflood continent likely was Pangaea and the Proto Atlantic Ocean was simply a small sea.
5. Extensive Tertiary coal beds later in the geologic record.
As the K-T boundary likely is the point at which flood waters began receding, the Tertiary coal beds were probably deposited as Flood waters receded into ocean basins. Some also could have formed by volcanism in the Postflood period.

Just because I think the floating forest is still a viable hypothesis, I have posted this. However, I may be very wrong on some of this. Please reply and give some constructive criticism about this comment!
Shaun Doyle
You're not alone in thinking that the floating forest biome idea is still viable. This is an area of creationist disagreement at the present time. This article is offered as a window into that disagreement (for more positive assessments of the floating forest biome idea, see some of the 'Related articles').

As to the summary statements oagainst the floating forest biome idea, they are explored in greater depth in Dr Clarey's article Examining the floating forest hypothesis: a geological perspective. There have also been a couple of letter exchanges on Dr Clarey's ideas with people who disagree with Dr Clarey's critique of the floating forest biome here and here. Nonetheless, even if one successfully pushed back against Dr Clarey's arguments against the floating forest biome per se, the main thesis of this article would still stand; i.e. that at best the floating forest biome idea only offers a minor contribution to any biblically-based explanation for the origin of coal.

At any rate, though, as a Journal of Creation article this article represents the views of the author alone, and not necessarily the views of CMI. Journal of Creation is a forum for research, discussion, and debate on matters pertaining to biblical creation.
James K.
I always envisioned the lycopod forests to be coastal delta environments perhaps estuarine or brackish. Some people say fish like tiktaalik and amphibians can’t survive in brackish water, in reality many otherwise wholly freshwater fish taxa have brackish water members (I.e pristella maxillaris of the characin created kind.) Furthermore it is nigh impossible to ascertain whether something is brackish tolerant just by looking at their bones. This would explain why lycopods are found near Permian strata. Perhaps the Permian deposits reflect expansive dune environments like the lencois marehenses today. Together the Carboniferous and Permian strata would have formed adjunct coastal ecosystems. (Jurassic and Cretaceous strata may represent swamps further inland.) I am only hypothesizing, but the preflood world is definitely not how it is portrayed in children’s books, it would have been fantastic and much more incredible than the secular mind (and the deep time worshipping churchman) can imagine.

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