Steve Chalke’s ‘New Reformation’—or new defamation?

Influential Baptist minister is busy redefining Scripture to fit modern sensibilities.1

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Published: 30 May 2019 (GMT+10)
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The Reverend Canon Steve Chalke, MBE, Senior Minister of Oasis Church, London

Steve Chalke is a man on a mission: he wants a New Reformation, to replace the original one started by Martin Luther 500 years ago. Chalke is an influential British Baptist minister, international speaker, prolific author, entrepreneur and Oasis Trust founder2—and a highly controversial figure. Since the start of 2018 he has been presenting his new ‘95 Theses’, not by nailing them to the Wittenburg Cathedral door, but by posting 95 ‘Big Questions’ on another public forum, YouTube. At the time of writing, Steve has so far chalked up 65 variously titled videos, including: “Bad theology costs lives”; “The Church needs heretics”; “Take the Bible seriously, not literally”; “Calling the Bible infallible has stopped us taking it seriously”; “Juvenile Bible reading endangering LGBT mental health”; “Traditional view of the cross ‘cheapens God’s forgiveness’”, and so on, ad nauseam.

As supporters of CMI may be aware, and as the titles of Chalke’s talks suggest, he is not advocating a return to biblical authority, certainly not in any sense that Christians are familiar with, or that Martin Luther would have approved of. Ever since Chalke’s unbiblical diatribe in his (co-authored) anti-gospel The Lost Message of Jesus, discerning Christians have become aware of his shocking slide into liberalism and apostasy. It was in that book that he penned his now infamous phrase “cosmic child abuse”, caricaturing the traditional understanding of Jesus’ atonement; as is sadly true of many professing ‘evangelicals’ today, he views the idea of Jesus being punished in the place of sinners (penal substitution) as unpalatable.3

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“Luther’s 95 Theses”

Genesis up for grabs

Chalke has gone on record saying, “Creationism is a load of garbage,” never to be taught in his Oasis Trust academy schools,4 and that Genesis is simply poetry “based on Babylonian creation myth.”5 CMI has debunked that kind of thinking, Genesis is narrative, not poetry, and the Babylonian creation myth likely borrows from Genesis, not the other-way-around. But here is the crux of the matter: when Genesis history is jettisoned within academia, particularly to accommodate evolution with the Bible, a flood-gate opens wide that inevitably washes away the foundations of biblical authority, leading to the loss of faith of many. Vital truths are undermined:

The Atonement

Chalke’s reinterpretation of the Atonement is inextricably linked to his reinterpretation of Genesis—that there never was a Fall and death was always part of nature. Such thinking rips the heart from the gospel, separating the first Adam from the Last Adam, making the essential need for the Atonement redundant. Why then would Jesus the ‘Last Adam’ die for humanity if they are not fallen as a result of Adam’s sin and in need of saving? Mixing evolution and the Christian faith leads to the erosion of biblical authority, especially when we recognize that Jesus believed in Creation and a ‘young’ earth, upholding the writings of Moses as authoritative. Indeed, Steve Chalke doesn’t even believe in the inherited sin-nature of mankind; rather, he believes in “original goodness6 and that the cross was merely a display of Christ’s love.7

The authority of Scripture

So what of Chalke’s ‘New Reformation’? Actually, there’s nothing new in it as we shall see! For instance, in his talk “Take the Bible seriously but not literally” he says we must recognize the Bible as a “library” written by “multiple authors”.8 That’s ok so far as it goes. The problem comes when he falsely states that these authors had only a partial and gradually expanding understanding and that they spoke with “contradictory voices”. He reasons that viewing the Bible in this way is “intellectually honest” and offers his favourite example of a Bible contradiction: “in Genesis there are two different creation stories … [that] contradict one another … over the order of the creation … neither of them is written as a scientific text or a historical narrative”. However, no such contradiction exists if the text is understood in context. He argues that Genesis 1 and 2 were poems to be publically read in opposition to Babylonian creation myths. Knowing this, he says, adds “depth and meaning to the Genesis story, not to mention removing the unnecessary and misguided clash with science”. However, when we recognize world-view issues and the limitations of science, there is no clash with science, of the operational (experimental) kind.

Chalke advocates teaching his ideas to Sunday school children, encouraging them to “write their own creation poems and stories” which according to him would “save the faith of many … as they reach their teenage years”. However, this is absurd advice to give for it saps confidence in the authority of the Bible. Frequently, origins is the issue when it comes to evangelism and young people leaving the church—when these issues are not engaged with in the pulpit. This sad fact is backed up by the ‘fallout’ statistics.

Human origins and our moral failure

For Chalke, the account of the Creation and Fall of Adam and Eve is “not history, it’s a myth, a kind of profound fable rather than an historical narrative.”9 It is not about the origin of sin, he says, but “about the birthplace of true morality. The Adam and Eve story is not about the fall of humanity, or our total depravity, instead it’s about the journey of humanity, as well as that of every individual human, away from innocence to moral responsibility.” Clearly, he feels free to reinterpret the foundations of Scripture without any regard to what the text is actually saying, or how Jesus or the New Testament writers interpreted the account, or indeed how the Church Fathers saw it.

The Flood judgment

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Tablet XI of the Gilgamesh Epic (BM ME K3375).

Chalke reckons that taking the Flood as an historical account is a massive stumbling block to faith, sceptically asking how Noah could “collect all those animals from around the world? How did he get them all on board? How did he feed them once they were there? How did he stop them killing each other?” CMI has answered all such questions, typically asked by atheists, on numerous occasions; e.g. showing that animals could fit on the Ark, that animal care was feasible, and that the Ark was a seaworthy stable design. Chalke thinks it would also be impossible for the human race to be re-established after the Flood, asking, “was the whole of humanity … rebuilt from Mr. and Mrs. Noah and their three sons and wives? The questions just keep on coming!” However, CMI has also answered such cynical questions with good science, showing that humanity could have repopulated to today’s level in the available time, from just Noah’s three sons and their wives (Genesis 10). Moreover, DNA evidence is consistent with this.

Unfortunately, Chalke is either unaware of, or ignores all such evidence answering his objections, leading him to proclaim that the Flood of Noah’s day never really happened! According to him, real “hard-history” only happens “with Abraham” onwards. Chalke’s solution is that the story of Noah was borrowed from the Gilgamesh Epic and that Genesis was written to “subvert” Gilgamesh, which, according to him, brought “meaning, hope and purpose” to the first hearers. But if the Genesis Flood account is merely re-interpreted myth, how could it bring hope and meaning? And any hope it did give would certainly be a vain one. Chalke asks if the Genesis accounts of Creation and Flood are historical narratives? He answers with a categorical “no!” but then proceeds to divorce theology from history by asking if any of these “stories are true?” His answer is “all of them! … What they have to teach us is far more important than mere history … !” But how can the theology arising from these accounts be true if they are historically false? However, the evidence points to the fact that it is the mythical Gilgamesh version which borrows its source material from Genesis—the true and inspired account of history.

A full-frontal attack on New Testament authority

Chalke jettisons God’s Word in favour of personal subjectivity, extending his questioning of biblical inerrancy to the New Testament. One talk is titled “Is the Bible the Word of God, or does it point to the Word of God?”10 Here Chalke pulls no punches in saying the Scripture contains error, or contains accounts of violence which cannot be accepted in modern culture. He defines his biblical hermeneutics (method of interpretation) like this: “if it looks like Jesus it’s God, if it doesn’t it’s not.”10 In other words, if a passage is read in the Bible that is deemed awkward or embarrassing, because of its violent or distasteful content, it should be rejected because it doesn’t sound like Chalke’s idea of a ‘nice, loving Jesus’. However, this novel approach to hermeneutics is subjective and self-refuting, as Chalke only forms his ideas of what Jesus was like from his watered-down version of the Bible. His method of ‘pick and choose’ from the Bible is one which atheists like Richard Dawkins rightfully scorn. How can he be sure the bits he reads about a ‘nice loving Jesus’ are any more trustworthy than the bits he rejects because they are deemed offensive?

Chalke gives an example of a New Testament passage that should be rejected as an historical account, due to its unpalatable content: specifically, in Acts 5, where Ananias and Sapphira are judged by God for their lying to the Holy Spirit. He recounts a radio interview where he rejected the idea that God could have killed them, and his surprise at the response: “was I really saying that the text of the New Testament could be questioned, that it might be less than entirely accurate; how heretical could I get? Everyone knows it’s infallible! But of course anyone who really reads the New Testament knows that this is far from the truth—it’s more complicated than that … ” However, the New Testament writers knew that they were writing inspired Scripture and moral objections to God’s judgment of Ananias and Saphira fall flat; see Is the Bible ‘evil’?

Chalke then proceeds to give a further example of why he questions the New Testament as a reliable historical witness. Citing the two gospel accounts of the violent death of Judas (Matthew 27:3–10; Acts 1:17–19) as evidence of inconsistent story-telling,11 he concludes that the Bible is “far from being infallible, it’s flawed … Although the texts that make up the Bible point to the Word of God they are not the Word of God.”10 These are stunning admissions from a Christian minister who used to be known as an evangelical.12

Clearly, Chalke disagrees with a lot of the Bible and feels free to disregard or re-interpret bits he finds unacceptable. That is why he redefines marriage and regularly marries same-sex couples.13 He even calls ‘conversion therapy’ (including prayer offered for those who want to deal with unwanted same-sex attraction) a “barbaric practice” which “undermine[s] the mental health and well-being of LGBT people, … an individual’s identity … [their] God-given humanity”.14 However, it is Chalke who is clearly undermining the straightforward teaching of Scripture on such fundamental issues as gender identity, equality, marriage, or human sexuality.

Christians must engage!

Steve Chalke challenges his viewers to “take the Bible seriously enough to teach it well”.15 My answer to him is that he neither takes the Bible seriously nor teaches it well! He has abandoned biblical authority and inerrancy in favour of personal preference and subjectivity. More than ever we need to return to the authority of Scripture, starting from the foundational truths as taught in Genesis. That is why CMI exists, to issue a clarion call to the Church, to return to the Truth of the Bible, to help defend the faith of the young, build robust, biblical world-views and answer the questions of a sceptical, unbelieving age. The challenge for all true Christians is to counter the ‘New Defamation’ proposed by Steve Chalke and his ilk.

References and notes

  1. This is a much expanded (updated) version of a CMIExtra article, CMI-UK/Europe, September 2018. Return to text.
  2. A potted history of Rev Steve Chalke, oasiswaterloo.org; accessed 3 April 2019. Return to text.
  3. Chalke, S. & Mann, A., The Lost Message of Jesus, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Zondervan, p. 182, 2003. Return to text.
  4. Chalke’s words were reported in: Anon, Leap of faith,theguardian.com, 31 January 2007. There are now 52 of his Oasis Trust Academies across England; seeoasiscommunitylearning.org/our-academies; accessed 3 April 2019.Return to text.
  5. Bunting, M., Leap of faith, theguardian.com, 31 January 2007; accessed 3 April 2019. Return to text.
  6. Chalke, S., Talk 26, ‘original goodness’ at 4:40, youtube.com/watch?v=N01otxyauVY. Return to text.
  7. Chalke, S., Talk 33 (this is a disturbing talk), youtube.com/watch?v=JbuswTodUyw. Return to text.
  8. Chalke, S., Talk 10, youtube.com/watch?v=Y-KecgKQZJM. Return to text.
  9. Chalke, S., Talk 43, youtube.com/watch?v=jEJwSTx55oQ. Return to text.
  10. Chalke, S., Talk 52, youtube.com/watch?v=6-520SIcnk0. Return to text.
  11. For a well-reasoned discussion of this event and its supposed inconsistencies see: Holding, J.P., The death of Judas Iscariot, tektonics.org; accessed 2 April 2019. Return to text.
  12. By any sensible definition, Chalke is no longer an evangelical Christian. In fact, his Oasis charity was jettisoned from the UK’s Evangelical Alliance in 2014, see: Borkett-Jones, L., Oasis removed from Evangelical Alliance over homosexuality stance, premierchristianity.com, 2 May 2014. Return to text.
  13. Chalke, S., Why I’ve created a church charter for gay marriage, premierchristianity.com, 9 May 2016; accessed 2 April 2019. Return to text.
  14. Chalke, S., Talk 36, youtube.com/watch?v=BQEmA7ayrL4. Return to text.
  15. Chalke, S., Talk 10, youtube.com/watch?v=Y-KecgKQZJM. Return to text.

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Readers’ comments

Leon M.
How to reach the person who reads ideas such as Chalke's can seem an impossible task. Fortunately we have the Holy Spirit to prompt such individuals––and us–– to search further in such places such as CMI's resources.
Graham P.
Great piece. I knew a man once who was a criminal lawyer, who had become a Christian. I asked him what had caused him to believe. "The gospels" he told me, "I always hear fake testimony, in which all the details match exactly. Authentic testimony contains differences, details that are inconsistent, due to the people seeing different things. The four gospels are authentic, because they are different."
I actually gave false testimony myself, to a policeman, before I became a believer: A friend and I were both asked to give evidence about a crime supposedly committed by a mutual friend (himself a violent criminal) and we concocted a story to tell that would get our friend off. When I told mine to the police officer, he said "you're lying, I know because your story is exactly the same as your friend's is".
(I wrote to the police after I became a believer, telling them what I had done)
Gian Carlo G.
This guy is a Christian? Really? You joke. He rejects New Testament authority and reliability, he also rejects OT authority and reliability, [criticises] Inerrancy, has a postmodern 'Guru Jesus' view, his view on the atonement is no different than how Richard Dawkins and all Internet atheopaths view it, has "The Shack" view of God overall; where is his Christianity? He's more a heretic. Yes, he may believe Jesus saves him and all, but look closely: he rejects NT authorship and reliability, which means he rejects what we have of the New Testament, which has the witnesses of the disciples and apostles to His Resurrection; which means he has no historical justification for the Resurrection (he probably doesn't even believe Jesus bodily resurrected), and bodily Resurrection is one of the essential beliefs for anyone to be a Christian. This guy is a joke. I can't believe he calls himself an evangelical Christian with all he rejects and detests.
Douglas W.
Rev Chalk represents a very sad situation. He would have made a very good Sadducee; but they were party to the Crucifixion.
Bill P.
This man is doing the same thing that Satan did in the garden when he deceived Eve. Therefore this man's god is the father of ALL lies. Case Closed !!!
It's bad enough that this person (unless he repents) is headed for destruction, but does he have to drag thousands or millions of other people down with him?
"Those who have put their trust in The Lord God of Israel shall not be ashamed."
John O.
Obviously, what this "Baptist minister" is proposing about the Bible and its truth is like Chalke & Cheese - There's no comparison!
Ross B.
The Bible he denies speaks of him and his ilk.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Luke 17:1 Jesus said to His disciples, "It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come!

2 Peter 2:1 Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

2 Peter 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Philip Bell
Indeed, these sober things are discussed in some detail in: From fables to truth.
Brandon E.
Chalke sounds like he is campaigning for the office of anti-Christ. Seriously, everything he says is against Christ.
James J.
"Did God really say...?" - Steve Chalke
Mark S.
Wow. Just... wow. As a Christian, as a Baptist Christian from Canada... at the risk of sounding repetitive - wow.
If Steve Chalke is a "... British Baptist minister..." - is his standing not subject to some denominational governing authority? I can't imagine *any* denomination would want to lay claim to he teachings, certainly not a Christian evangelical one.

I noted the picture of Chalke at the beginning or the article, the "Fundraising" banner in the background. It brought to mind an apt few verses:
"But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them... Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality... the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money." 2 Peter 2:1-3

"Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:30

"They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit." 1 Jude 18, 19

I thank God for CMI, even and especially when you step outside creation ministry itself to expose and rebuke heresy like Chalke.
Gavin Cox
Thanks, Mark for your comment. Thankfully Steve Chalke does not represent the Baptist church in the UK, of which there are many good, sound churches. His Oasis trust was removed from the Evangelical Alliance in 2014 due to its teaching on same-sex marriage. However, since then Chalke has continued to slide ever further away from core Evangelical teaching, which has been demonstrated in his more recent YouTube videos and desire to start a 'new reformation'- which in reality is defamation of Biblical authority.
Tony B.
Jesus warned that in the end times there would be false teachers, He told also told us to watch out for wolves in sheep's clothing. Sadly, this is a description of Steve Chalke. The people who go to his church need to vote with their feet and go to a church which has sound biblical teaching.
Louie H.
Steve Chalke is a wolf in sheep's clothing. What he says is disgusting, heretical, and i believe PURPOSEFULLY deceitful. Acts 20:29-30: "For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." The wolves are here in abundance, devouring the precious faith of God's flock. We true followers of Jesus need to stand against deceivers like this and give lost people the true gospel message and emphasize the historical truth of Genesis and the infallibility of God's word. The end of false teachers like Chalke has already been written: 2 Peter 2:1: "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."
James K.
Pastors are equal to man and not equal to God. We ought to follow God when man’s theology fails. To quote my favorite video game: “ this is (God’s) story you must let (him) finish telling it”.
Randall M.
Chalke is a perfect fit for Paul's warning in 2 Timothy 3. Sadly, 2 Timothy 4:3-4 is also in full play.
Tommy S.
There really is no need to refute this man or his positions. Any true Christian knows quite plainly and obviously the lies that he presents. And those that would follow after him are certainly not interested in true Christianity and are seeking after their own desires and beliefs. Drawing someone away from this is even harder than drawing an atheist away from their beliefs. Pointing out the error here won't persuade anyone because they are only interested in Chalke's ideas because they do precisely what they are designed to do and that is to affirm their rejection of the truth and make them feel good about their apostasy. Someone who would follow such utter nonsense do so because it rejects what they want no part of: the truth.
Philip Bell
Would that we could simply ignore such people. However, their teaching brings great confusion into the minds of those who don't sufficiently know or understand the scriptures, hence the biblical requirement that God's people point out and warn the Church against falsehood; discussed in the article mentioned in the response to Ross B. in these comments. Similarly, the Apostle Paul exhorts, "We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ" (2 Corinthians 4:5).
Malcolm T.
It has been my opinion for many years that the Christian Church is coming increasingly more under attack from within. Satan is sowing his false teachers in our churches.
Brothers and Sisters, everywhere it is time for us, who are true believers to stand up and be counted and to be militant for Christ.
I have seen, what Spurgeon once called, "The downgrade controversy" in our Churches over the last 20 years. We need to come back to the teachings of the past, i.e. the infallibility and inerrancy of Holy Scripture, a literal teaching of the book of Genesis and a return to those doctrines put forth by the Reformers.
C. N.
People like Chalke play lip-service to sound principles, like Scripture interprets Scripture, but by that they mean not an honest searching for truth wherever it leads, but that the bits they agree with always trump the bits they disagree with. However they are (in their own estimation) paragons of virtue on account of the way they lovingly tolerate those who are not as far on towards their enlightened new interpretation of the Bible.
What worries me is that there are believers with a genuine love for Jesus, who follow teachers like Chalke because they aren't aware that there are better teachers around. If all those who can discern the errors simply walk away, who is left to help the ones who are innocently misled?
Noeline C.
What a load of codswallop. You either believe the Lord, that the Bible is His Word & infallible, or you become a scoffer & pick & choose what part you will believe or won't. Jesus quoted the Old Testament about the worldwide flood & Noah's family. Jesus fulfills all the OT prophecies about the Messiah, He said He is the Word. If He believes the Bible & said He created the world in 6 days & rested on the 7th, that is good enough for me. He does not need man's approval. Thank you Lord for preserving the Bible down through the Ages & thank you that you still have a remnant who hold on to its sacred pages & believe it.
Hans W.
Thanks for mentioning Steve Chalke! I've never heard of him before. While I disagree with many of his ideas, he seems to open a way for today's people, especially the younger generations, to connect with Christianity.
Philip Bell
Unfortunately, the 'Christianity' promoted by Steve Chalke is not the authentic faith that was delivered to the saints (Jude v. 3) and for which multitudes throughout history have paid the ultimate price in persecution and even martyrdom. It is an emaciated, castrated version, impotent to effect real change in people's lives. Only as Christians unashamedly proclaim the unadulterated Gospel of Christ can we be sure of its power to transform, heal and save rebel sinners and bring them into the family of God (Romans 1:16) .
Daya N.
Another example of : "men by wisdom knew not God!" [1 Corinthians 1:21, Ed]
Harry B.
I think a quote from Joseph Prince sums it up well: "When you read the Bible be sure to read everything in its proper context because when you take the 'text' out of its 'context' what you are left with is a 'con!'"
Philip Bell
Yes, and this point is constantly made by every evangelical minister I know, as well as in numerous articles at creation.com.
Diana S.
Jesus replied, “Don’t let anyone mislead you, for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will deceive many ... but don’t panic." Mark 13:5-7.
We should stand firm on his words and not panic. We need to be true and strong ourselves to God’s word.
Even though there are and will be false prophets we should know how to differentiate the false from the truth by letting the truth of the Bible guide us.
Thanks for CMI in standing for and by God’s word.
We are all human and err, but if we truly believe in Jesus and God’s word - truth with prevail.
Raymond S.
No real surprise with the direction he has headed in recently. We must stand fast against such Apostasy.
Eivind G.
Once again the need for your vital ministry is highlighted, for the words of the prophet Hosea 4:6 come to mind, where it states that "My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge." As a pastor of many years standing I have used and continue to use your many articles in my teaching in Apologetics and am appalled at the lack of knowledge amongst church folk, not only in my own country South Africa but my parents' country Norway, and I put the blame squarely at the feet of those of us who are pastors and preachers. I encourage others to subscribe to and use your excellent material.
Thank you for the many many hours of research and work you folk do for us. I pray that you will continue to grow in grace.
Nigel S.
I [e-mailed Steve Chalke]...

I am shocked. It leads me to understand that you are nothing more than a Pseudo Christian, ... No, not Salvation either, so don't deceive yourself. Because if you had then you would not exchange God's truth for a lie. 

Not having the Holy Spirit has left you vulnerable to not understanding God's word, this lack of revelation has caused you to conjure up dangerous lies, something Satan has been doing for 6000 years!  1 Corinthians 2:14 (NIV) The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. Do not kid yourself, you will be judged alongside all other Pseudo Christians and Atheists, but you Mr Chalke will be judged more strictly. James 3:1 ..........

You are also involved with children and youth. Mathew 18:16 (NIV) Jesus said, "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."

2 Peter 2:1 Jesus said: Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 

If you will not acknowledge your error repent of it and forsake it then you have a depraved mind and will suffer the consequences of such. ... [not enough space for my whole letter.]
Favid E.
I suspect that Steve Chalke came across Higher Literary Criticism as part of his theological training which would explain his view that scripture is merely the writing of of fallible human beings, and is why he undermines the authority of the Bible at every opportunity.

He may well also practice contemplative prayer because a fruit of that is a disdain for the Bible and an opposing of foundational doctrine, which describes him extremely well.

Pray for him!
Zapruder 1.
The latest in a long list of snakes (including the likes of Rob Bell) who wants to appoint himself to be the authority on all things spiritual and true but is too cowardly to admit it. When you ask "Well if the Bible shouldn't be the bedrock and final authority for what we as Christians believe and practice, what should be?", they'll just answer you "love" or "compassion will guide us", or some such vague, flowery, meaningless nonsense.
Mike W.
Chalke seems to be Britain’s answer to the American based “ Emergent church” whereby we are to have a “conversation” about our faith and come to no particular conclusion about it. There seems to be a deep uncertainty about everything and there are supposed to be no answers to anything: but whatever you do: “ we mustn’t take the Bible literally or hold onto doctrine”
One must ask therefore, what does emergent church faith actually stand on?
Dan M.
1. The "traditional view of the cross cheapens Gods forgiveness"? What cheapens Gods forgiveness is to use Gods grace to go on sinning while claiming to follow Him! To repent, means to change your mind about your sin and to adopt Jesus Christs point of view about your sin.
2. Jesus was not involuntarily punished by god in our place. He gave Himself freely. It was His, (Jesus's) sacrifice to redeem His creation, not punishment! Jesus, himself did nothing wrong that needed punishment. It was an act of love towards us.
This man is just another false prophet that our Lord foretold in Matthew 24:24. Don't buy it people. What he is teaching IS NOT Christianity, and if Genesis is just a fable the whole of Christianity falls apart and we are the most pitiable as Paul said in 1 Cor. 15:19, because our beliefs are in vain. But praise God that it is the true history. When a person opens their heart and mind to the gospel, it makes total sense and the teacher, (Holy Spirit) will make it known to you. All you have to do is swallow your stubborn pride and ask God for forgiveness, (real repentance). If you don't feel bad about your sin, then you are not saved and you are not His disciple. Something this man is clearly not willing to do at this point in his life. I pray he will see the light, so to speak.
Those who say Christianity is a crutch, have obviously never repented of their sin because it is a struggle that should become easier with time, but a struggle none the less because of our sin nature.
Geoff W.
He reminds Me of John Shelby Spong, only WORSE, How can people go wrong if they read God's word and listen to what the Holy Spirit is teaching about it. When I first started reading the Bible, I wasn't a Christian but I had strong sense that what
I was reading (Genesis 1) on the face of it was the intended message, even though I didn't agree with it, it made sense, when I read it few days later with an evolutionary slant it didn't make sense, and left Me with more questions than answers.
By May 1985 I no longer believed evolution. I came to the Lord in September 1984, and My evolutionary beliefs were shattered.
The interesting part is, when I looked back on the previous few years, God had already started to raise questions in My mind about evolution, if all this happened Millions of years ago, how could they be sure it happened this way and not differently. How could be so sure about what the creatures skin surface looked like.
I can understand how new Christians will continue to believe some things for a while, but when you get seasoned Christians being stubborn in their "KNOWLEDGE" that Evolution is a FACT because science says so, and in some cases, I've been a science teacher for years, Don't You Dare Question the training I've received.
For them it's time to SWALLOW their pride in their own intellect, beside who gave them that intellect, for them to use to serve God, If God says something, who can improve on it?
J L.
Satan has broken into the sheepfold and carried off another. I suppose they choose to go. Even though your ministry is not about substitutionary atonement, it has overlapped once again. Chalke has joined the many voices writing book, blogs, vlogs, papers, and speeches denouncing sub atonement. No one is out there particularly attacking the moral influence theory, the example theory, or the Christus victor theory. That only affirms for me that sub atone is correct. Satan doesn’t waste his time on stuff that doesn’t matter.

I attended a liberal church for years. They are lovely, kind people but the clergy can be crazy, arrogant, politicized, social justice warriors and they encourage such in the flock. There is little emphasis on the Bible despite it being read in the liturgy each Sunday. Some know and believe more Dawkins than scripture. I once heard a priest teaching Sunday school say “I don’t know why Jesus had to die; why he couldn’t just live to old age and then die and be resurrected.” I guess my clergy had no personal belief in ANY atonement.
Their only real belief is that Jesus was a good person, and they should be a good person too. Lots of other things in the Bible are “unfortunate” or errors; people don’t sin, they “make mistakes” and Jesus would never punish anyone for that. “Lifestyle” choices are not mistakes; they’re just the way God made you and loves you. As for Mr. Chalke and others like him, “Woe to the shepherds.”
Bob J.
I believe that one who claims to be a follower of the Living Word while at the same time undermining and destroying the integrity of the written word is a contradiction! Steve Chalk is a contradiction - 2 Timothy 4:2-4; 2 Peter 2:1-3; Jude 3-4 etc.
I would have to question whether a man like this could ever be regarded as a Christian - He has rejected all clear teachings of God's Word and teaches a false gospel - James 2:23 tells us that "Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him as righteousness: and he was called the friend of God." 4:4 - says that" anyone who will be a friend of the world is an enemy of God." These teachings of Steve Chalk certainly would make him a friend of the world!
Jesus speaks of false prophets in Matthew 7:15, 21-23 and tells us in Matthew 15:6-9 that man's teachings make the word of God of none effect. Colossians 2:8 also warns about "false teachers who spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Paul tells us in 2 Corinthians 2:17 "For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ." cf. I Timothy 6:3-5; 2 Timothy 3:7-8 - This would be a good man to stay far away from!
I John 2:19 cf. I John 4:1; I Thess.5:21; Romans 12:2; Acts 17:11 cf. 2 Timothy 3:15-17 - In Christ - Bob Jones - 2 Timothy 2:15 -
David S.
One of the weaknesses of mankind is their incessant need for kings and rulers. God’s will has always been for His people to look to Him as King, but we always clamor for men to rule over us. The church has always struggled with elevating individuals above where they should be, giving over our discernment to the “experts”. That’s just fine when the “experts” are right, but devastating when they are wrong or deceptive. If we focus on restoring the priesthood of believers and move away from this model of church life where we follow one man wherever he may lead, we will go a long way towards restoring discernment and the Lordship of our Savior ...
Marilyn V.
Proof of the fact we are in the last of the last days... false prophets will even deceive the elite of Christ Followers... this wicked man, is defaming Christ!! He goes down, unless, like Darwin... he repents.. there are a lot of shallow Christ Followers... not deeply rooted... who WILL fall away. Biblical Fact... proof keeps piling up!! JESUS is Coming SOON!
Ian N.
He is the embodiment of the Church of the Laodiceans. Eventually God will vomit him out. But if he listens to the pleadings of God and his people, he can re-enter the fold.
Russell W.
Another useful idiot for Atheism and UK's burgeoning Islamic Fascism
Abraham T.
I do wonder what he does with a passage like... "depart from me, I don't know you"... Matthew 7:23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Steven B.
Mike W is absolutely right in his comment associating Steve Chalke with the Emergent Church in the UK, but not in what the Emergent Church stands for. It is not tied to any particular denomination, but spans across Protestants and Catholics alike. It originates from Theilhard de Chardin's ideas (Jesuit & paleontologist), originally rejected by the Vatican, but later promoted by a subsequent pope after Theilhard's death in 1955 - see his posthumously published book, The Phenomenon of Man. The emergent thought is very clear: both life and religion are evolving towards perfection, the Omega point. The Emergent Church is a serious threat to Biblical Christianity.
Esther H.
It is very sad to see where Steve Chalke has ended up. When I was a teenager, our church youth group showed some of his videos relating to relationships and they were fairly sound from what I can remember. When I was an adult he started appearing on mainstream British breakfast TV and I thought it was a bad sign as genuinely evangelical Christians are not usually made welcome by our media. Then his anti-atonement views started coming out some time later and now all this. He is one of many who think they can sit in judgement on God’s Word which in truth is sitting in judgement regarding God himself. He can’t claim to speak authoritatively about the character of Jesus if he rejects the written word which testifies of the Word, Christ. No mere man gets to define who God is, God declares himself to us through his word and through his creation.

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