A knocker answered
Published: 10 August 2019 (GMT+10)
We received the following negative comment from Fred P., from the United Kingdom, in response to our article ‘Countering blockers and knockers’:
Why are you surprised that the established church does not welcome your weird views? The Old Testament is a collection of wonderful stories that have spread round the world, BUT they are stories, fairy stories. Just because they're written down doesn't establish any veracity, certainly not now that science has proven thousands of times over that the earth is around four billion years old, not a trifling 10,000 as you claim. Pick any branch of science from palaentology and geology to genetics and cosmology and every piece of evidence points to an ancient world. Darwin's evolution may have been a theory in 1850 but now, today, in 2019 it is a fact. How else can you explain that we all have 98% or so the same DNA as apes and chimpanzees; and 50% the same as a banana? We all have common ancestors given enough time and mutations to develop into different species. Your hilarious depiction of the ark that according to you encompassed lions and penguins, polar bears and the 114,000 types of beetle to pick one at random. When are you going to stop this farce—or is it such a money spinner that it would be financially embarrassing to admit the Emperor's Clothes?
The author of the article, Don Batten, responded:
Why are you surprised that the established church does not welcome your weird views?
The ‘established church’, as you call it, is rapidly dying, whereas the churches that believe and teach the Old Testament history from the beginning are growing. That is a statistical fact. See Voting with their feet (about the UK ‘mainline’ church decline).
The Old Testament is a collection of wonderful stories that have spread round the world, BUT they are stories, fairy stories. Just because they're written down doesn't establish any veracity,…
Discovery after discovery in archaeology is showing that the ‘stories’ of the Old Testament were historical events. See some examples at Archaeology Q&A. And Jesus, through whom all things were created, clearly took them as real events in time and space.
“science has proven thousands of times over that the earth is around four billion years old”.
Um no, not even once, let alone a thousand times over. Please see Long-age isotope dating short on credibility, which shows how the value of 4.55 billion years was based on very flawed methodology, many years ago, and ‘canonical phase locking’ (confirmation bias) has kept it very close to that original value since. The following articles show how radiometric dating is not objective science but sophisticated-sounding story-telling: The dating game and The pigs took it all. Geologist Dr Tas Walker explains simply why there is no proof of deep time ages from radiometric dating: The fatal flaw with radioactive dating.
Furthermore, there is abundant evidence (not proof) that the billions of years are fiction, and that Earth and the universe are much younger; please see Age of the earth (note the introduction that explains why there is no dating system in the present that can ‘prove’ the age of something from the past).
“Pick any branch of science from palaentology and geology to genetics and cosmology and every piece of evidence points to an ancient world. Darwin's evolution may have been a theory in 1850 but now, today, in 2019 it is a fact.”
Nice bit of elephant hurling here! But then you do give some specifics, so let’s look at them:
“How else can you explain that we all have 98% or so the same DNA as apes and chimpanzees; and 50% the same as a banana.”
Well no, that’s old science, the 98% figure (and the comparison was between humans and the common chimp). See: The one percent myth. And note that even a 1 or 2% difference would be an impossibility for evolution by mutations and natural selection, even with all the best possible assumptions (see below), to change a common ancestor with a chimp into a human in the supposed 6 million years that it took. However, the difference is now known to be much larger, which makes human evolution even more impossible—if that were possible!
Note also that the 50% banana figure came from a flippant throw-away line from Professor Steve Jones; it did not come from a careful comparison of the two genomes. If we had two random sequences of DNA the same length, then they would be expected to be 25% the same; that is the ‘bottom line’, since there are only four DNA ‘letters’ (nucleotide bases). If we did share 50% of our DNA with a banana (it’s possible), that would be a problem for evolution, because the supposed common ancestor with a banana would be so far back in deep time that every base pair would have mutated, such that there should be little similarity at all.
“We all have common ancestors given enough time and mutations to develop into different species.”
No common ancestors have been identified, because they never existed. And there has not been anywhere near enough time, even with your naïve acceptance of the deep time myth. See Haldane’s Dilemma. Furthermore, the genetic evidence from a wide range of species matches a very recent origin; see Empirical genetic clocks give biblical timelines.
“Your hilarious depiction of the ark that according to you encompassed lions and penguins, polar bears and the 114,000 types of beetle to pick one at random.”
This shows that you have not looked at anything much at all that we have written regarding evidence for Noah’s Flood, the variation within a created kind that has occurred, or the feasibility of the Ark. In other words, you lampoon something that you know next to nothing about. That is not a reasonable approach to knowing. There is abundant geological evidence for a global flood like the Bible describes; see: Geology Q&A,
When are you going to stop this farce—or is it such a money spinner that it would be financially embarrassing to admit the Emperor's Clothes?
Many of the front-line workers in Creation Ministries International gave up well-paid careers in science, medicine, and other professions to be paid much less (some are volunteers). So, it is rather ludicrous to suggest that we are ‘in it for the money’. We also sustain a lot of personal abuse from people such as yourself. The irony does not escape us that the story of the emperor’s clothes is much more aptly applied to the dogmatic teaching of evolution. The emperor insisted on pain of severe penalty that everyone agree that his naked body was beautifully clothed. No one will suffer stigma or penalty in the here and now for disagreeing with biblical creation, but many have suffered for daring to question evolution. Many in academia have lost their jobs for daring to question the evolution myth; no dissent will be tolerated in many universities (see Review of Slaughter of the Dissidents).
I would personally prefer to lead a quieter life without the unpleasantness. However, we all see the importance of getting the truth about origins into the public square—that God created us with a purpose for eternity; we are not just ‘re-arranged pond-scum’. This message is life-changing on a personal level, but also facilitates human flourishing, as shown with the history of ‘western’ nations since the great revivals of the 1800s until recently. This is now rapidly being lost as we descend into chaos as God and his Word have been jettisoned in similar manner to what you are advocating. It would be wonderful if you would investigate the evidence for the Bible’s real-world history and its life-saving message.